General Explosions in Kiev

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Bungee up

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Jun 25, 2022
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Not really. My American mind gets in the way. I'd have gone ham on them already but that's what we do. Russians are different. Legalities and paperwork are of extreme importance to them. Even the soviets would read someone their arrest papers as the were beating the sh*t out of them. They shuffled people around work camps to avoid their sentences running out just to somehow keep it legal in their mind even though it was obvious what they were doing. Putin quotes international law and the UN all of the time when he knows we in the west don't care at all.

I'm pretty sure he does it for the sake of his own people. He dives in to details about the SMO and now what it means to legally declare the Ukrainians as a terrorist government and that means he can escalate but to war levels. There is a whole other set of legal requirements for that. In the Russian mind there is a process to how they prosecute this conflict. To us, it's just shock and awe all of the time.

Maybe Touch can explain it better but I've had Russians try to explain it and it still doesn't seem right to Americans.
They probably don't want to be the global bad guy in the PR war the way they were during the cold war again. Despite how much the western media is trying to paint that picture still.

Your instinct on war is correct though. If you go to war you don't fuck around. It should be all or nothing.
The problem is we get lied into every single war and they are unnecessary at best and straight up manufactured conflicts at worst.
 

MountainMedic

Rock Kicker
Sep 28, 2017
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Not really. My American mind gets in the way. I'd have gone ham on them already but that's what we do. Russians are different. Legalities and paperwork are of extreme importance to them. Even the soviets would read someone their arrest papers as the were beating the sh*t out of them. They shuffled people around work camps to avoid their sentences running out just to somehow keep it legal in their mind even though it was obvious what they were doing. Putin quotes international law and the UN all of the time when he knows we in the west don't care at all.

I'm pretty sure he does it for the sake of his own people. He dives in to details about the SMO and now what it means to legally declare the Ukrainians as a terrorist government and that means he can escalate but to war levels. There is a whole other set of legal requirements for that. In the Russian mind there is a process to how they prosecute this conflict. To us, it's just shock and awe all of the time.

Maybe Touch can explain it better but I've had Russians try to explain it and it still doesn't seem right to Americans.
Russians have a very strong sense of "thats just how things are and always will be" about them. Its baked into their collective DNA
 

okiebug

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Aug 13, 2024
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Russians have a very strong sense of "thats just how things are and always will be" about them. Its baked into their collective DNA
It's a true enough statement but somewhat if an over simplification. You could say that about a lot of different cultures and not be wrong.
 

touch

Member
Feb 9, 2015
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Not really. My American mind gets in the way. I'd have gone ham on them already but that's what we do. Russians are different. Legalities and paperwork are of extreme importance to them. Even the soviets would read someone their arrest papers as the were beating the sh*t out of them. They shuffled people around work camps to avoid their sentences running out just to somehow keep it legal in their mind even though it was obvious what they were doing. Putin quotes international law and the UN all of the time when he knows we in the west don't care at all.

I'm pretty sure he does it for the sake of his own people. He dives in to details about the SMO and now what it means to legally declare the Ukrainians as a terrorist government and that means he can escalate but to war levels. There is a whole other set of legal requirements for that. In the Russian mind there is a process to how they prosecute this conflict. To us, it's just shock and awe all of the time.

Maybe Touch can explain it better but I've had Russians try to explain it and it still doesn't seem right to Americans.
I agree with what Bungee Up wrote
 

NotBanjaxo

Formerly someone other than Banjaxo
Nov 16, 2019
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Hey touch @touch please could you contact Telegram on our behalf, and ask if they could make the watermarks on their photos and videos more obnoxious?

I can almost see what's happening in the background!

Thanks in advance 🙂