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Leaking would be everything Bongino is against. Obviously he was pissed off, which is why he took his leave of absence, but leaking would be undermining the Trump presidency. Zero chance. He could bury each president he protected with "tell all" books, and could have made a ton of money in the process. That's not him. He respects his oath. He has a code of conduct that is the opposite of pretty much anyone else in Washington. He didn't give up $10m+ a year to go to Washington for $150k a year to destroy his brand, his reputation, and everything he's worked a lifetime for. He's got Trump's ear anytime he wants it. Bongino earned my trust years ago.
So the guy just finished clearly lying directly into a camera to millions of people and your proudly saying you trust him.

You and I could not see the world more differently. The correct take should be I don't trust him and I probably shouldn't have ever trusted him.
The guy clearly loves Israel and the deep state that he supposedly hates more than justice and exposing the failure and corruption of government.
Whether he's controlled opposition ( which is absolutely a real thing ) or leaked this or that or is unhappy is totally irrelevant.
All that's relevant is that he is acting in the exact same way as liar and a deep state stooge would act. At bare minimum on this issue.

Yes he's playing cover but he really isn't happy about having to do it ( as some people are saying )?????
What are we doing here ?
This is sam harris level logic.
People lie. He's a fucking liar . End of story.

But he's doing it to " save the country "?
Really?
Cos I thought exposing this shit is what saving the country would look like.
Apparently not. Gotta back the blue. Only go after those nasty people behind crossfire hurricane..... if they even do that.
 

Papi Chingon

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I respect your opinion, personally I think Bondi is so bad at her job he might say fuck it after Trump keeps taking her side and its fucking up what he was put there to do.

But, like I said, I hadn't even thought of it until we started talking about. I'm not married to the theory, I just think its possible. Bongino blew up his life and found himself in some bullshit right out of the gate to be there. If he's not feeling supported by Trump, who knows what he'll do.
My statement/opinion has nothing to do with whether he remains on the job. He may quit if he keeps butting heads with Bondi. Ultimately he and Kash answer to her, and is she is giving out less than truthful or misleading statements about their reports and/or findings, as a man of principal I could see him resigning.
My statement/opinion was simply that he has bulletproof character and integrity, and therefore would NEVER leak, nor undermine the administration. He works for the administration and he understands that.
 

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So the guy just finished clearly lying directly into a camera to millions of people and your proudly saying you trust him.

You and I could not see the world more differently. The correct take should be I don't trust him and I probably shouldn't have ever trusted him.
The guy clearly loves Israel and the deep state that he supposedly hates more than justice and exposing the failure and corruption of government.
Whether he's controlled opposition ( which is absolutely a real thing ) or leaked this or that or is unhappy is totally irrelevant.
All that's relevant is that he is acting in the exact same way as liar and a deep state stooge would act. At bare minimum on this issue.

Yes he's playing cover but he really isn't happy about having to do it ( as some people are saying )?????
What are we doing here ?
This is sam harris level logic.
People lie. He's a fucking liar . End of story.

But he's doing it to " save the country "?
Really?
Cos I thought exposing this shit is what saving the country would look like.
Apparently not. Gotta back the blue. Only go after those nasty people behind crossfire hurricane..... if they even do that.
He lied about what? That all evidence he has seen says Epstein killed himself?
 

Bungee up

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He lied about what? That all evidence he has seen says Epstein killed himself?
Yes.

Did he not come off like he was clearly lying to you ?
I didn't imagine a single person looked at that and couldn't see he was lying.
Why ? Do you think there's a possibility he was telling the truth?
 

Papi Chingon

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Yes.

Did he not come off like he was clearly lying to you ?
I didn't imagine a single person looked at that and couldn't see he was lying.
Why ? Do you think there's a possibility he was telling the truth?
Yes, I believe he was telling the truth. He was speaking from facts, not speculation, after reviewing the entire file. Whatever is in the file brought him to that conclusion. Whatever may be missing from the file, deleted prior to him entering the bureau, is not for him to speculate, unless there is evidence (not conspiracy theory) pointing elsewhere. The file does not have that evidence.
Is everything surrounding Epstein's death suspicious? Yes. Is Epstein committing suicide what I wanted to hear? No. But he specifically said based upon existing evidence (ie what is in the FBI's file), it was a suicide.
Guards falling alseep during suicide watch, cameras not working, hell, Hillary Clinton entering the prison as a guest...you name it, does not change evidence that exists; it just leads to speculation. The statement he made was based upon evidence, not speculation, and he made that clear when stating his conclusion is based upon the file.
 

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Yes, I believe he was telling the truth. He was speaking from facts, not speculation, after reviewing the entire file. Whatever is in the file brought him to that conclusion. Whatever may be missing from the file, deleted prior to him entering the bureau, is not for him to speculate, unless there is evidence (not conspiracy theory) pointing elsewhere. The file does not have that evidence.
Is everything surrounding Epstein's death suspicious? Yes. Is Epstein committing suicide what I wanted to hear? No. But he specifically said based upon existing evidence (ie what is in the FBI's file), it was a suicide.
Guards falling alseep during suicide watch, cameras not working, hell, Hillary Clinton entering the prison as a guest...you name it, does not change evidence that exists; it just leads to speculation. The statement he made was based upon evidence, not speculation, and he made that clear when stating his conclusion is based upon the file.
Agreed. And he knows the real evidence is gone. We're never going to see it.
 

Bungee up

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Yes, I believe he was telling the truth. He was speaking from facts, not speculation, after reviewing the entire file. Whatever is in the file brought him to that conclusion. Whatever may be missing from the file, deleted prior to him entering the bureau, is not for him to speculate, unless there is evidence (not conspiracy theory) pointing elsewhere. The file does not have that evidence.
Is everything surrounding Epstein's death suspicious? Yes. Is Epstein committing suicide what I wanted to hear? No. But he specifically said based upon existing evidence (ie what is in the FBI's file), it was a suicide.
Guards falling alseep during suicide watch, cameras not working, hell, Hillary Clinton entering the prison as a guest...you name it, does not change evidence that exists; it just leads to speculation. The statement he made was based upon evidence, not speculation, and he made that clear when stating his conclusion is based upon the file.
I'm shocked that you believe him .
I cant believe anyone would watch that and not see that they were both obviously lying.
It was so obvious.
It was so obvious it was almost intentionally bad. " he killed himself " wink, wink nod ,nod.
To me that's more plausible than he was telling the truth.
Literally any other explanation you can think of is more plausible than he was telling the truth.
I love this because it also tells me every pundit that believes him is also clearly full of shit as I assumed.
Look at their responses. They go in circles. I've never been one to demand the Epstein client list , that's retarded. But they could release their file with names only redacted. They're never going to do that because they've known about this guy and what he's been doing for decades.
At the very least dan could be saying that. But he's not. So he's lying about that for sure. So lying about that and lying about him killing himself is basically the same thing.
Your argument has to boil down to 2 things. Either all of this was bullshit about the whole blackmail operation and ties to intelligence and he was just some creepy rich dude or the last administration destroyed the files.
I do not by either of those things and it awfully suspicious how ready they are to move on from this if they did destroy the files.

I can't even believe I'm actually trying to convince you. The guy was fucking lying ot was plain as day. That's all the evidence I need. You just have to look at him.
 

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I'm shocked that you believe him .
I cant believe anyone would watch that and not see that they were both obviously lying.
It was so obvious.
It was so obvious it was almost intentionally bad. " he killed himself " wink, wink nod ,nod.
To me that's more plausible than he was telling the truth.
Literally any other explanation you can think of is more plausible than he was telling the truth.
I love this because it also tells me every pundit that believes him is also clearly full of shit as I assumed.
Look at their responses. They go in circles. I've never been one to demand the Epstein client list , that's retarded. But they could release their file with names only redacted. They're never going to do that because they've known about this guy and what he's been doing for decades.
At the very least dan could be saying that. But he's not. So he's lying about that for sure. So lying about that and lying about him killing himself is basically the same thing.
Your argument has to boil down to 2 things. Either all of this was bullshit about the whole blackmail operation and ties to intelligence and he was just some creepy rich dude or the last administration destroyed the files.
I do not by either of those things and it awfully suspicious how ready they are to move on from this if they did destroy the files.

I can't even believe I'm actually trying to convince you. The guy was fucking lying ot was plain as day. That's all the evidence I need. You just have to look at him.
You're entitled to your opinion. Evidence can't be brought out of thin air and dead men can't talk. Many years went by to get rid of whatever the deep state wanted to get rid of prior to Kash and Bongino (they have been in their respective roles for what, 3 or 4 months? What is in the file and what was gathered after looking at the file is what it is. Bongino earned my trust for years, and he has my full trust now in this new role.
 

Bungee up

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You're entitled to your opinion. Evidence can't be brought out of thin air and dead men can't talk. Many years went by to get rid of whatever the deep state wanted to get rid of prior to Kash and Bongino (they have been in their respective roles for what, 3 or 4 months? What is in the file and what was gathered after looking at the file is what it is. Bongino earned my trust for years, and he has my full trust now in this new role.
I wish I could say your entitled to you opinion ect. But the truth is I'm disappointed with anyone that's buying this. Because this is the exact mechanism that allows them to get away with this stuff.
I'm not a who's bongino guy. I've known about him since what ? 2018-19 .
He did good work. But I don't trust anyone in that space because none of them can be trusted. Even if they say 1000 things you agree with.
That is exactly what they have to do to be controlled opposition. They have to say a lot of shit people agree with. They don't get there by having a nice personality.
Maybe bongino isn't even controlled opposition. Maybe he just loves Israel that much.
The problem is he just did such a bad job of lying.
 

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What? That's democrat/commie talk. Even KnockoutThoughts @KnockoutThoughts is entitled to his opinion.
By ect i mean " but we'll just have to agree to disagree on this issue, blah blah fucking blah ".
My point is , this isn't a small or even medium size issue. This is a fucking big deal, and if people are going to let this slide then there's nothing they won't get away with. If there's an issue to take a stand on and say " enough of this bullshit " this is as good as you will ever get.
Otherwise fuck all will change.

One thing I'll re iterate is you really shouldn't ever use the word trust when it comes to these people. Trust ? What is he your daddy ? Saying you like him is more than sufficient. One thing you cannot ever do is trust them.
Tucker says heaps of shit I like . Do I trust him ? Fuck no.
Same with candice. I can't think of a single instance of her lying about something. I don't trust that bitch as far as I can kick her.
Look at any of these people. None of them can be trusted . What they say is irrelevant. Nothing they have said is worthy of a trust gift certificate.
What would earn trust might you say.
I dunno. Maybe if someone like tucker said something like " you know, I've been in DC for 30 years and the one thing I know is the whole system is fucked, the government cant be fixed. Every one of them is corrupt and brought off by lobbyists. " why? Cos that would be true and an accurate conclusion.
Instead he says very similar things and his solution is to basically " government harder and better ". Which is fucking absurd and he must know that for him to be able t9 have the critiques he has. Yet he dosent. For all his talk that's what his answer is. It is not a logical conclusion.
It fits perfectly into the mould of controlled opposition. Someone needs to say it so it's him. It's not getting at the root problem.
Do I think he's controlled op. Not sure . Dosent matter. It is what it is. I agree with him a lot. I definitely don't fucking " trust" him though.

That's not me being nihilistic or cynical. That's an accurate assessment of what is going on , that's all.
 

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Zero chance Bongino leaked ANYTHING, and to Axios of all outlets?
Why not

A leftist rag will run this.

Do we think a right wing outlet would, in the same way Axios would, given what we've seen of the right wing the last week?

This is totally the scenario where you leak to opposition and leverage their distrust of your side.
 

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I didn't know who Bongino really was prior to this. I'm only going off what I see and trying to figure it out. He hasn't shown up for work in going on four business days, and they of course don't care about business days so it's been closer to seven days. You don't do that as deputy director of the FBI. Because he is independently wealthy he can afford to stand on business and he apparently is. He is one among this group who doesn't need this job, and look how he is responding. To me that says something.
 

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Somewhere along the line they flipped Trump. Who knows how they did, but there's been a noticeable change in his demeanor over the last couple weeks. He's now setting the stage for a perfect liberal takeover in 3 years. Business as usual...

Thread needs a title change unfortunately.
 

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I didn't know who Bongino really was prior to this. I'm only going off what I see and trying to figure it out. He hasn't shown up for work in going on four business days, and they of course don't care about business days so it's been closer to seven days. You don't do that as deputy director of the FBI. Because he is independently wealthy he can afford to stand on business and he apparently is. He is one among this group who doesn't need this job, and look how he is responding. To me that says something.
Just before Trumpism took hold he released a book calling out "the system." It was well-received and he's been making a name off it since. He's staying on-brand by walking away from a lying Administration.

 

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I do. When, I dunno, but I don't think they're protecting anyone. I think they're awakening the masses before exposing the perversion & corruption, and bringing the whole thing down. I think things are going on that very few outside of Trump & a handful of others are aware of. Notice how Trump having the DOJ & FBI coming out and saying Epstein killed himself & there's no list, got the world talking about Epstein, and the mainstream 'media' (CNN & MSNBC), saying the list must be released?

Then you have Benny Johnson (who's a Trump mouthpiece) coming out this morning insinuating Epstein was working for Israel/Mossad. Anything that dude says was directed by, or approved by, Trump. I think they're dripping info, and using tactics like 'there is no list' to get everyone talking about Epstein (further awakening the masses) before releasing it and exposing those involved. If they would have just came out with it 6 months ago, CNN & MSNBC would have buried it and ran cover for it, not nearly as many 'normies' would have heard about Epstein like they're hearing about him now, and the storyline would have been "Trump is just retaliating against Clinton, Obama, and other political foes & critics."

I remain confident disclosure and justice is coming.

Just my 2 cents.
Holy fucking shit, dude. Is this real life? You're trying WAY too hard here. You can't actually believe this??

"I think they're dripping info, and using tactics like 'there is no list' to get everyone talking about Epstein (further awakening the masses) before releasing it and exposing those involved" might be the most insane thing I've ever read in my life.

Fucking absurd.
 

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Holy fucking shit, dude. Is this real life? You're trying WAY too hard here. You can't actually believe this??

"I think they're dripping info, and using tactics like 'there is no list' to get everyone talking about Epstein (further awakening the masses) before releasing it and exposing those involved" might be the most insane thing I've ever read in my life.

Fucking absurd.
Remember when Fauci was a national hero? Trump likes to put his enemies in the spotlight to make them expose themselves. It's not an absurd concept. Just hard to believe in anymore.

 

Wild

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Holy fucking shit, dude. Is this real life? You're trying WAY too hard here. You can't actually believe this??

"I think they're dripping info, and using tactics like 'there is no list' to get everyone talking about Epstein (further awakening the masses) before releasing it and exposing those involved" might be the most insane thing I've ever read in my life.

Fucking absurd.