General China looks at ending sales of gasoline cars

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Freeloading Rusty

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China looks at ending sales of gasoline cars
China looks at ending sales of gasoline cars

China is joining France and Britain in announcing plans to end sales of gasoline and diesel cars.

China’s industry ministry is developing a timetable to end production and sale of traditional fuel cars and will promote development of electric technology, state media on Sunday cited a Cabinet official as saying.

The reports gave no possible target date, but Beijing is stepping up pressure on automakers to accelerate development of electrics.

China is the biggest auto market by number of vehicles sold, giving any policy changes outsize importance for the global industry.

A deputy industry minister, Xin Guobin, said at an auto industry forum on Saturday his ministry has begun “research on formulating a timetable to stop production and sales of traditional energy vehicles,” according to the Xinhua News Agency and the Communist Party newspaper People’s Daily.

France and Britain announced in July they will stop sales of gasoline and diesel automobiles by 2040 as part of efforts to reduce pollution and carbon emissions that contribute to global warming.


Communist leaders also want to curb China’s growing appetite for imported oil and see electric cars as a promising industry in which their country can take an early lead.

China passed the United States last year as the biggest electric car market. Sales of electrics and gasoline-electric hybrids rose 50 percent over 2015 to 336,000 vehicles, or 40 percent of global demand. U.S. sales totaled 159,620.

The reports of Xin’s comments in the eastern city of Tianjin gave no other details about electric car policy but cited him as saying Beijing plans to “elevate new energy vehicles to a new strategic level.”


Beijing has supported electric development with billions of dollars in research subsidies and incentives to buyers, but is switching to a quota system that will shift the financial burden to automakers.

Under the proposed quotas, electric and hybrid gasoline-electric vehicles would have to make up 8 percent of each automaker’s output next year, 10 percent in 2019 and 12 percent in 2020. Automakers that fail to meet their target could buy credits from competitors that have a surplus.

Beijing has ordered state-owned Chinese power companies to speed up installation of charging stations to increase the appeal of electrics.

Chinese automaker BYD Auto, a unit of battery maker BYD Ltd., is the world’s biggest electric vehicle maker by number of units sold. It sells gasoline-electric hybrid sedans and SUVs in China and markets all-electric taxis and buses in the United States, Europe and Latin America as well as in China.

Volvo Cars, owned by China’s Geely Holding Group, announced plans this year to make electric cars in China for global sale starting in 2019.

General Motors Co., Volkswagen AG and Nissan Motor Co. and others have announced they are launching or looking at joint ventures with Chinese partners to develop and manufacture electric vehicles in China.

 

Rambo John J

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The US/world got owned, by many superior engines being bought up/buried by the big motor companies

We passed/bought out better engines for at least 30 years(likely a better engine was around in the 60s)
Why change fuels when profits flow like water?
 

Yossarian

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With an influx of electricity usage, will we become more dependent on nuclear power? Is clean and safe electricity going to be a realistic primary source for these cars?

Maybe they are dumb questions, but I always wonder about the free lunch.
 

Jesus X

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china has some hilarious knock offs cars


lol at this G wagon


this called the Dongfeng crazy soldier
 
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The US/world got owned, by many superior engines being bought up/buried by the big motor companies

We passed/bought out better engines for at least 30 years(likely a better engine was around in the 60s)
Why change fuels when profits flow like water?

What engines?
 
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With an influx of electricity usage, will we become more dependent on nuclear power? Is clean and safe electricity going to be a realistic primary source for these cars?

Currently, you need a liquid fuel or a battery replacement station. One of those two things must happen for mass use.

The next step will be improved battery technology that doesn't take so long to fill up.

Regarding the increased demand for electricity I would guess that nuclear is a requirement. I don't see that as a lack of free lunch as much as something that is long overdue.

Wanting all these "green" technologies while protesting nuclear power generation seems incongruent to me.
 

Yossarian

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Currently, you need a liquid fuel or a battery replacement station. One of those two things must happen for mass use.

The next step will be improved battery technology that doesn't take so long to fill up.

Regarding the increased demand for electricity I would guess that nuclear is a requirement. I don't see that as a lack of free lunch as much as something that is long overdue.

Wanting all these "green" technologies while protesting nuclear power generation seems incongruent to me.
It's just not something people consider when talking about electric cars. Yes we can move towards renewable energy, but that is a long road ahead of us. Now throw in electric cars, and transportation, that road has just become a lot longer. Companies that are making these cars are going to want profit, and will look for shortcuts to gain that.

People don't want coal, or new nuclear power plants but that is what is needed to run their "electric" cars. Unless we first come up with a renewable solution for those power sources but that must come BEFORE the use of electric cars.
 
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exactly

If you don't think Big Auto doesn't buy up and suppress alternative engines... I feel bad for you.

Your a good guy but don't play dumb with me.

Lmao what?

I was just wondering what we were talking about so I could read/learn.
 

Rambo John J

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What engines?
If an engine came out that got 200 miles to the gallon, or ran on fuel you could produce cheaply at home....

DO you honestly think it would be embraced by Big Oil and shared with the public?

I hope not
 

Rambo John J

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Lmao what?

I was just wondering what we were talking about so I could read/learn.
I am just playing bro...like your style

Many techs have been bought and buried in the name of continuing the amazing profits.

You look into it yourself if you want...gonna be a lot of misinformation and name calling in that muddy water.

Simple logic is all I am referring to.

Big Business is not fucking around with their profits...they are fucking ruthless like robbie
 

HEATH VON DOOM

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Good that means more gas for my F 350. Fuck those commies and their pussy electric cars.