NSFW Coming out of the psychedelic closet

[soundoff71]

I'm no space cowboy, & no one's ever called me Maurice, but I agree with the premise here. These plants can be transformative under the right circumstances with the right intent. They're not for everyone, but they can help out many. Not all paths are straight & narrow. Some are wide & curvy. Free your mind & your ass will follow.

Coming out of the psychedelic closet

"People who are not ready for psychedelics definitely should not try them, but people who have tried them and have experienced life altering benefits need to be honest with the people close to them. An important question to consider is how open should we be about coming out? Each individual needs to discern when it is appropriate to share and the homosexual community could probably provide guidance on that topic."

Discus...

 

[HEATH VON DOOM]

Sounds like a bunch of hippie bullshit to me. I did a bunch of LSD and mushrooms years ago they were fun and made my back hurt. Then i quit seeing shit and moved on with my life. End of story.

Pretty sure people that have life altering experiences just do too much of them and have to change their way of thinking to justify why they still do it.

 

[soundoff71]

Sounds like a bunch of hippie bullshit to me. I did a bunch of LSD and mushrooms years ago they were fun and made my back hurt. Then i quit seeing shit and moved on with my life. End of story.

Pretty sure people that have life altering experiences just do too much of them and have to change their way of thinking to justify why they still do it.

If it's bullshit to you, you hurt your back, & you did it just for fun, then you should probably never do them again.

People's experiences can be quite different, regardless of what anyone thinks. Writing it off as hippy bullshit can just be another way to justify another point of view. But to each his own.

 

[HEATH VON DOOM]

If it's bullshit to you, you hurt your back, & you did it just for fun, then you should never do them again.

People's experiences can be quite different, regardless of what anyone thinks. Writing it off as hippy bullshit can just be another way to justify another point of view. But to each his own.

Just say you like the way it makes you feel man. You dont have to justify it. I enjoyed the experiences i had but would hardly quantify it as life changing.

 

[soundoff71]

Just say you like the way it makes you feel man. You dont have to justify it. I enjoyed the experiences i had but would hardly quantify it as life changing.

Well it's not that simple. I don't always like the way they made me feel. Sometimes it was a mixed bag.

There were times when it was scarey. 'Shrooms made me puke my guts out. I recently tried Ayahuasca for the first time over a 2 night period. Both nights I got violently ill & puked more than I have in years. The 2nd night was terrifying & heavy, I bawled my eyes out.

When I was younger & fucked around with shrooms, acid, & mescaline, I just wanted to get high & trip balls. I wasn't looking for any kind of transformation. But despite that, I felt a sense of connectedness that stayed with me. That led to various types of meditations, which led to Theravada Buddhism & Vipassana meditation, which I've been active with for over 7 & 1/2 years. So for me, it was transformative.

I did my Aya trip with the intent of going deep within, & with hopes of transformation. I've been meditating consistently for 7 & 1/2 years now. I haven't drank or smoke weed for 8 & 1/2 years. My intent was different. I feel like years of meditation helped make the most out of the experience.

It's been almost 3 weeks now, & up until today it's been rough. I felt angry, depressed, & short-tempered. I was blowing off my meditation practice & not sleeping right. Last night I finally got over 6 hours sleep, & just the past few days, I've been more consistent with my meditation practice.

I know you want me to say I just enjoyed tripping out & I like the way it feels, but I went into the Aya trip with a different mindset. There's no way in good conscious I could go along with that & just be like, "Yeah man, it was GROOOVEY".

 

[HEATH VON DOOM]

Well it's not that simple. I don't always like the way they made me feel. Sometimes it was a mixed bag.

There were times when it was scarey. 'Shrooms made me puke my guts out. I recently tried Ayahuasca for the first time over a 2 night period. Both nights I got violently ill & puked more than I have in years. The 2nd night was terrifying & heavy, I bawled my eyes out.

When I was younger & fucked around with shrooms, acid, & mescaline, I just wanted to get high & trip balls. I wasn't looking for any kind of transformation. But despite that, I felt a sense of connectedness that stayed with me. That led to various types of meditations, which led to Theravada Buddhism & Vipassana meditation, which I've been active with for over 7 & 1/2 years. So for me, it was transformative.

I did my Aya trip with the intent of going deep within, & with hopes of transformation. I've been meditating consistently for 7 & 1/2 years now. I haven't drank or smoke weed for 8 & 1/2 years. My intent was different, & I feel like the meditation made the most out of the experience.

It's been almost 3 weeks now, & up until today it's been rough. I felt angry, depressed, & short-tempered. I was blowing off my meditation practice & not sleeping right. Last night I finally got over 6 hours sleep, & just the past few days, I've been more consistent with my meditation practice.

I know you want me to say I just enjoyed tripping out & I like the way it feels, but I went into it with a different mindset. There's no way in good conscious I could go along with that & just be like, "Yeah man, it was GROOOVEY".

So what do you use now? Acid trips last forever so i know thats not for meditation. Shrooms always seemed more organic to me and were a better trip unless you just ate out of the bag and got sick. It seemed like the taste was what got me. When i was in Bali and had the shake it was a much easier transition. I hope you arent one of those lets eat this acid and watch willy wonka frat boys.

 

[Ghost Bro]

after taking acid, I've never looked at trees the same way again..nature in general but the trees are especially interesting. I've noticed more depth, and the different shades of green seem clearer than they ever did before...and its been a while since I did it..I'm fascinated by it..it was like meeting my surroundings again for the first time and looking at it like through a whole new set of eyes.

 

[soundoff71]

So what do you use now? Acid trips last forever so i know thats not for meditation. Shrooms always seemed more organic to me and were a better trip unless you just ate out of the bag and got sick. It seemed like the taste was what got me. When i was in Bali and had the shake it was a much easier transition. I hope you arent one of those lets eat this acid and watch willy wonka frat boys.

I don't use anything, outside of the recent Aya trip. I meditate & do breathing exercises. Lately I've been doing Wim Hof's breathing before mediation & cold showers.

I think entheogens have their place for certain people under certain circumstance, but if you overuse them, they lose their effect. And I believe using them just to get high or trip balls is misusing them. I don't think that's what they're meant for.

I think they're like the red pill in The Matrix: it's just a way to open a door to the mind. The real work starts afterwards. IMHO, meditation, breathing exercises, yoga, chi gong, or some sort of mindful practice is what you're really supposed to 'use' most of the time as a transformation tool.

I hope to Christ I don't sound like some Willy Wonka watching stoner frat fuck. In my teens & early 20's, sure. But not now. Like I said, I don't drink or smoke weed anymore. The Aya was the first substance I've done in years. I have no plans of ever smoking weed or drinking again. I'll definitely do Aya again & Ibogaine if I ever get the chance.

I doubt I'd do 'shrooms, acid, or other psychedelic plants again. I feel like I got what I needed out of them, & they're too easy for me to abuse (go see a show, watch Willie Wonka while tripping balls, etc...). I don't wanna go back down that stoner/space cowboy rabbit hole again. Been there, done that.

 

[soundoff71]

after taking acid, I've never looked at trees the same way again..nature in general but the trees are especially interesting. I've noticed more depth, and the different shades of green seem clearer than they ever did before...and its been a while since I did it..I'm fascinated by it..it was like meeting my surroundings again for the first time and looking at it like through a whole new set of eyes.

Sometime soon, I'll PM you about trees & shit after my Aya experience, LOL.

 

[Ghost Bro]

Sometime soon, I'll PM you about trees & shit after my Aya experience, LOL.

Smooth sailing bro!

 

[Punch]

I ate six hits of paper and went to six flags once. That was intense. Never tried aya, but it sounds interesting.

 

[soundoff71]

I ate six hits of paper and went to six flags once. That was intense. Never tried aya, but it sounds interesting.

The last time I did acid was over 20 years ago (I'm an old bastard). I went to a state park in PA called Ricketts Glen, which is basically mountains & waterfalls. My friend & I dropped the acid & then got the bright idea to climb up the side of the waterfalls. Tripping & climbing...not a great idea.

 

[Punch]

The last time I did acid was over 20 years ago (I'm an old bastard). I went to a state park in PA called Ricketts Glen, which is basically mountains & waterfalls. My friend & I dropped the acid & then got the bright idea to climb up the side of the waterfalls. Tripping & climbing...not a great idea.

Nah, that'd be some shit right there. Climbing first, tripping after.

 

[soundoff71]

Nah, that'd be some shit right there. Climbing first, tripping after.

Now why the fuck didn't I think of that???

Oh, I know: cause I was a stoner drunk wannabe space cowboy dimwitted fucktard without a lick of common sense who just wanted to get high & be stupid. But I'm glad I was, cause I'd never be where I'm at now.

 

[Punch]

Now why the fuck didn't I think of that???

Oh, I know: cause I was a stoner drunk wannabe space cowboy dimwitted fucktard without a lick of common sense who just wanted to get high & be stupid. But I'm glad I was, cause I'd never be where I'm at now.

It happens. Some kids just wanna party. Then you grow out of it... Mostly.

 

[tang]

So what do you use now? Acid trips last forever so i know thats not for meditation. Shrooms always seemed more organic to me and were a better trip unless you just ate out of the bag and got sick. It seemed like the taste was what got me. When i was in Bali and had the shake it was a much easier transition. I hope you arent one of those lets eat this acid and watch willy wonka frat boys.

I find eating kit kat candy bar with shrooms is the best way. Chocolate masks the stanky smell and the wafer is similar texture to dries mushrooms. Makes it easier to chew it throughly

 

[Ghost Bro]

The last time I did acid was over 20 years ago (I'm an old bastard). I went to a state park in PA called Ricketts Glen, which is basically mountains & waterfalls. My friend & I dropped the acid & then got the bright idea to climb up the side of the waterfalls. Tripping & climbing...not a great idea.

First time I did it I had gone kayaking with my best friend, definitely would recommend!! although we were paddling like idiots on occasion!

 

[PrideRules]

I find eating kit kat candy bar with shrooms is the best way. Chocolate masks the stanky smell and the wafer is similar texture to dries mushrooms. Makes it easier to chew it throughly

I remember that time you took all that DMT, mushrooms and acid.

 

[Jesus X]

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[tang]

I remember that time you took all that DMT, mushrooms and acid.

that was crazy. well, thank you for re-introducing me to all the great psychedelics. It changed my life for good even if the trip was horrific

 

[soundoff71]

that was crazy. well, thank you for re-introducing me to all the great psychedelics. It changed my life for good even if the trip was horrific

I'd love to hear moar, please.

 

[tang]

I'd love to hear moar, please.

I finally found the hook for DMT, guy wanted to trade 30 tabs of lsd for it so I did. I tried first few times and didn't feel shit. The guy that got it for me tried it in front of me and he was gone. after, I smoked it here and there and nada. I was pissed! thought I got some bunk shit. Few months passed and I forgot about the DMT but was trippin on Shrooms and LSD quite often.
One day, I was trippin balls off. Started with the shrooms, then moved on to LSD and (i think i took lil bit of molle and might have taken a 10mg roxy too). At the end of the day, when I was coming down from all the stuff I consumed I had a bright idea about smoking the DMT (cuz i read it somewhere if u mix wit shit, it'll take it to the next level), so I smoked it. I've been hearing from DMT gurus that the best way to smoke is to smoke out of straight crack pipe, and burn it like if u're hitting meth. But that day, I packed it in a weed pipe, mixed it with some shakes and ashes and blazed it~
I was sitting on my bed, under my blanket. As I took my last hit and holding it in, starting with a very heavenly sound, like the cool noise it makes when u first turn on some electronic device (ps4, xbox, tv...) everything seemed like it was fading and my vision changed. The blanket that I was on, turned into a block-like texture kind of resembling lego blocks. The color/shape of the blanket made me think it was a huge crocodile on top of me because the lego like texture resembled croc's back. Everything I was looking at, all the details had been disappeared. Like when I saw my dog, she looked like one solid color like a cartoon. Then either everything around my bed dropped down really fast or I ascended to the sky really fast but something happened, I think I was rising and my bed was like a vessel but more like a magic carpet flying in the sky. As I rose into the sky, somehow now I was above my blanket, the lego-like block textures stretched out with me but not all the way. It stopped at some point, but they definitely were stretched out and looking down to it, looked like a skyline of some city like NY or SF. The silhouette of the skyline were lit with bright green lights and it really felt like I was flying over the city on my magic flying bed.
then all the lines from the silhouette went into it's own directions and all these geometric patterns started forming around me. I could kind of see the objects that were in my room but one thing for sure was that all the lines were connected to each other. I was still getting the impression that i was flying but still aware that i was in my room, and when I stared at my open closet, the way my clothes were hung looked like a face, at first it was like a cartoon face, then the more i stare, it became more like a robot face. (Optimus Prime's face to be more exact...) Then it was saying some stuff to me but I couldn't make out but it was the same heavenly tone I heard from the very beginning.
then all the lines started going crazy. they were still green and bright and all of a sudden the lights started forming around me at a very rapid pace. The lines created some kind of tornado effect around me then the tall shape of tornado was condensed into more flatter shape like a donut, and the lines got thick and it was fixated in that shape. So I'm still flying and I felt like I was in an UFO. I don't even know where I'm going just still hovering over the city and crazy robot face still talking to me making heavenly noises, just yea. So far, all this was soooooo intense.

To be continued... i gotta go do stuff, i'll be back later

 

[tang]

...continue from last

so I'm still hovering over the city in an UFO, robot face still talking to me can't make out what it's saying. Besides all the crazy visual trip that I was seeing, the sensation I was feeling was similar to... u know when u're riding a roller coaster and in the beginning of the ride where it takes you to the highest point and descending really fast? yea it felt like it was descending the whole time but continuously without an end. I couldn't handle the intensity anymore so I closed my eyes. And shit calmed down a bit but I was still vividly seeing shit. Now the colors changed a bit, from neon green to more like blue, red, yellow (traditional lego colors?) and the noise changed to like bells and chimes. I was kind of seeing all the old toys I used to play as a kid and reminded me of being in a toy store. But the blue, red, yellow colors were so intense and they were morphing into different shapes, I couldn't really make out. Then I remember my jaw being locked (like when u drop E, u grind ur teeth?) into a smile. It was locked into that expression and I couldn't change it. Big fat smile on my face.

I think I was laying down once I closed my eyes. After my face locked into a smile, inside of my mouth felt like it was foaming or it felt like I was eating Pop-rocks candy. But the taste was that chemical taste of DMT and as my mouth was gargling, some of that chemical started going down my throat. In the heat of the moment I thought maybe I'll get sick if I swallowed this so I made a strong attempt to get up and reach for my trashcan to spit. Trying to get up while DMT was peaking was like trying to move around while u are free fall during skydiving? Entire body felt very heavy with resistance but I managed to get up to sit up at least. As I was getting up, I opened my eyes and visually I was seeing the border between my trip and the reality. I noticed everything around me was marked with cross-contour lines and felt like I was inside of a web. Inside of the web was my trip and outside was the reality. As I reached for my trashcan, the web stretched a little but I broke my hand through it. And I kept on trying, eventually my head came out of the web. Once my head was out, my vision started returning to normal and all the cartoon like visuals were gone. The more I try to get myself out of the web, my vision was twitching like a strobe light, flashing between reality and the trip, and more and more went toward the reality. As I finally got hold of my trashcan, and spit that nasty chemical, as my spit leaves my mouth, that was the end of the trip. Kind of ended anti-climatic.

Yea, gotta say that was the craziest Visual trip I've experienced. I really don't know what wisdom I've gained from that particular trip, but DMT's visuals are crazy.

Shrooms, it's like leaving my physical body and sitting down in front of me to have a conversation with myself.
LSD, it's like a truth serum. I start speaking the truth, even stop bull-shitting myself. I have some issues with my close family and LSD helped me to reach them out and tell them truthfully about how I felt about certain things.
Both enhances the shit out of my creativity for Art,Music,Wiriting and Both were done in a very high dose for me to have these kind of revolutions. Terrence Mckeena said that if u want to escape, u want to escape fastest possible not giving urself any room to have control and to do that, you have to eat sufficient amount. Psychedelics are never the answer or the cure to the issue that might be in front of u, but it helps u realize what's important and how u should make that approach. Set and Setting is crucial. It'll make or break your experience.

 

[tang]