General Cult Thread

[sparkuri]

The Jim Jones cult documentary is interesting.

I heard some stuff about that recently I need to follow-up up on.
Basically it was a government op, they didn't die from stricnin or drinking poison, but injections into the back of the neck.
Autopsy report cited.
Hit was deliberate on US congressman Leo Ryan.

 

[sparkuri]

that sounds familiar

I think that was Dennis Hallman actually from Yelm WA.

There was another poster too from the same group, I remember them talking about it in a larger thread like this one.
They both got out when they grew up if I recall.

That was @Leigh iirc.
Actually Dennis introduced Leigh to the cult back in 98 iirc when he kimura'd him at an event in B.C.
Leigh was intrigued but wasn't sold until Dennis won a 3-win tournament a little later at EC iirc, the one where he finished Shannon Ritch & Matt Hughes in a combined 1 minute.

After Leigh quit the cult he went full on Marxist & now trains with antifa in Philly with @kneeblock to destabilize free nations & promote closet cucking of goat fuckers.

I may have exaggerated on most of this.

 

[Cornhole Champ]

Ive been rabbitholing the 12 Tribes/Yellow Deli Cult.

I was aware of a cult operating in a town along the Appalachian Trail that ran a restaurant and hostel that had been picking off lost souls for decades. Well known among climbers and hikers.

Had no idea they were so big. 13 countries or some shit. Beating children is literally a part of their religious construct and after a documentary came out the ones in Germany immediately packed up and moved to Czechoslovakia because corporal punishment is illegal in Germany.

Hard to find any good docs on them, mostly low grade blogger stuff on YouTube.

What town?

 

[MountainMedic]

What town?

Rutland VT

 

[Rambo John J]

Never seen this
just started and it looks interesting
It is a prank/social experiment film instead of traditional Doc

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewVlzvCwiDE

 

[Daglord]

I heard some stuff about that recently I need to follow-up up on.
Basically it was a government op, they didn't die from stricnin or drinking poison, but injections into the back of the neck.
Autopsy report cited.
Hit was deliberate on US congressman Leo Ryan.

All true (some drank poison, some injected, some shot).

Look into the relationship between Dan Mitrione (USAID) Jim Jones.

Church Committee & Ford Commission were bringing heat down on the CIA & their activities within the US. This, along with critical newspaper articles & media coverage at the time, forced Jones to move the Peoples' Temple to Guyana (away from the controversy & outside of congressional oversight).

Leo Ryan was a thorn in the CIA's side for most of his career (big respect). He had co-authored the Hughes-Ryan Act which required extensive notification of all covert operations of the CIA to one or more congressional committees within a set time limit. IIRC, he also had a family friend who had lost his son to the PT. After widespread reports of human rights violations, & being extremely vocal about the lack of congressional oversight of the CIA, Leo Ryan planned to visit Jonestown & is met with resistance from the CIA & State Dept.

IMO, He was 100% set up to be taken out. Jonestown was an USAID/CIA op (widespread accounts of sensory deprivation, torture, punishment beatings, sexual humiliation, brain-washing, etc) & Ryan had been fighting that his entire career (SLA, MKUltra, Vaccaville, DeFreeze, etc). MK Ultra, supposedly terminated, simply moved from Hospitals, prisons & universities to religious cults.

 

[Daglord]

In 1980, Congressman Ryan’s chief-of-staff Joseph Holsinger – who did not accompany the congressman to Guyana but helped to arrange his visit – declared he had uncovered that Jonestown was a covert CIA “mind-control experiment” & that Ryan’s visit threatened to pierce the veil & expose it. He was convinced Ryan & the entire Jonestown encampment were eliminated by the CIA for this reason and testified to Congress that the CIA was behind what happened.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x6HscZaqe8

 

[Daglord]

Larry Layton, the only man tried & convicted for the murder of Leo Ryan, is the son of Dr. Lauren Layton - who had been chief of the Army's Chemical Warfare unit.

 

[Daglord]

Good listen. RIP Mae Brussell.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHLYYqFDe8s



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DUuShMExnM



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CHSUS2F0EY

 

[O’Browneye]

All true (some drank poison, some injected, some shot).

Look into the relationship between Dan Mitrione (USAID) Jim Jones.

Church Committee & Ford Commission were bringing heat down on the CIA & their activities within the US. This, along with critical newspaper articles & media coverage at the time, forced Jones to move the Peoples' Temple to Guyana (away from the controversy & outside of congressional oversight).

Leo Ryan was a thorn in the CIA's side for most of his career (big respect). He had co-authored the Hughes-Ryan Act which required extensive notification of all covert operations of the CIA to one or more congressional committees within a set time limit. IIRC, he also had a family friend who had lost his son to the PT. After widespread reports of human rights violations, & being extremely vocal about the lack of congressional oversight of the CIA, Leo Ryan planned to visit Jonestown & is met with resistance from the CIA & State Dept.

IMO, He was 100% set up to be taken out. Jonestown was an USAID/CIA op (widespread accounts of sensory deprivation, torture, punishment beatings, sexual humiliation, brain-washing, etc) & Ryan had been fighting that his entire career (SLA, MKUltra, Vaccaville, DeFreeze, etc). MK Ultra, supposedly terminated, simply moved from Hospitals, prisons & universities to religious cults.

Good post.

I'd also ran across this a handful of weeks back and unsurprisingly enough, it seems Jones was a poofter with a jewish butt-buddy who'd run the poisoning:

The Jonestown Massacre: A Horrific Tavistock-Style Brainwashing Experiment | Winter Watch

Editor's Note: Without an understanding of the Tavistock-Levin method, the reader will have a hard time grasping what happened at Jonestown or what is happening in the world in general. Read this first: "The Tavistock Method of Brainwashing and Social Psychiatry." On Nov.18, 1978, at a remote...

www.winterwatch.net

Edit:

And since the Tavistick link is a part of the narrative at the above piece, there's this:

Tavistock - The Hidden Social Engineering Machine

View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/k5D4rKbotNv2

 

[sparkuri]

Man @Daglord , always good to have you around & share these things.

I had no idea about the bullshit Jonestown narrative until recently.
More videos to watch, disseminate, verify & categorize.

 

[Mutant]

I heard some stuff about that recently I need to follow-up up on.
Basically it was a government op, they didn't die from stricnin or drinking poison, but injections into the back of the neck.
Autopsy report cited.
Hit was deliberate on US congressman Leo Ryan.

What's crazy are his links to political figures in San Francisco in the late 70s Willie Brown, Pelosi, Feinstein.

 

[segfault]

All true (some drank poison, some injected, some shot).

Look into the relationship between Dan Mitrione (USAID) Jim Jones.

Church Committee & Ford Commission were bringing heat down on the CIA & their activities within the US. This, along with critical newspaper articles & media coverage at the time, forced Jones to move the Peoples' Temple to Guyana (away from the controversy & outside of congressional oversight).

Leo Ryan was a thorn in the CIA's side for most of his career (big respect). He had co-authored the Hughes-Ryan Act which required extensive notification of all covert operations of the CIA to one or more congressional committees within a set time limit. IIRC, he also had a family friend who had lost his son to the PT. After widespread reports of human rights violations, & being extremely vocal about the lack of congressional oversight of the CIA, Leo Ryan planned to visit Jonestown & is met with resistance from the CIA & State Dept.

IMO, He was 100% set up to be taken out. Jonestown was an USAID/CIA op (widespread accounts of sensory deprivation, torture, punishment beatings, sexual humiliation, brain-washing, etc) & Ryan had been fighting that his entire career (SLA, MKUltra, Vaccaville, DeFreeze, etc). MK Ultra, supposedly terminated, simply moved from Hospitals, prisons & universities to religious cults.

That kind of flies in the face of Jim Jones reportedly being a communist who used the Peoples Temple as a bait to indoctrinate his followers into Marxist revolutionaries. The heavy push of multiculturalism (only the black and brown kind, of course), everyone being told they're gay, that an impending race war would see white supremacists put his beautiful rainbow people to death and he was their savior. That's what his sermons turned into, according to survivors. He appointed three high ranking members to not commit suicide and transfer all funds to the Soviet Union after his death, which was reaffirmed by his wife's will.

The death tapes have him scolding his followers, "Stop these hysterics. This is not the way for people who are socialists or communists to die. No way for us to die. We must die with some dignity." He tried to relocate his Temple to the Soviet Union in 77-78.

Or are we talking 5D chess where a spook is pretending to be a commie who is pretending to be a Christian?

Keep in mind he hired Mark Lane and Donald Freed to peddle bullshit and try to whitewash Jones and paint him and his followers as victims of a conspiracy by US intelligence. I'd say they weren't entirely unsuccessful. Talk to someone with only a passing familiarity of Jonestown and they tend to have no idea of its communist ties.

 

[O’Browneye]

What's crazy are his links to political figures in San Francisco in the late 70s Willie Brown, Pelosi, Feinstein.

And at least tangentially to Dr. Louis Jolyon "Jolly" West who Tom O'neill convincingly linked to Charles Manson and shitloads of other weird fuckers and events in CHAOS: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties:

Transcript Episode 8 The Psychodelic Elephant — TRANSMISSIONS FROM JONESTOWN

Truth often requires those who search for it to accept coincidence as a form of nature. How are Jim Jones, Patty Hearst, Jack Ruby, and Sirhan Sirhan all connected? Find out as we go further down the rabbit hole.

www.transmissionsfromjonestown.com

"Leo Ryan had acquired a reputation for nosing around secret CIA projects and exposing them to Congress. The Hughes-Ryan Amendment aimed to hold the CIA accountable for their actions morally and monetarily. Ryan was investigating the horrific medical experiments that had been performed on Donald Defreeze in Vacaville State Medical Facility. He interviewed Clifford Jefferson, a former Vacaville inmate who had witnessed Defreeze take part in Dr. West’s behavioral modification experiments. Leo Ryan leaked this information to an investigative reporter named Jack Anderson, who printed the story, including the interview with Clifford Jefferson. Jefferson claimed that Dr. West was determined to find the breaking point in his subjects. He would drug inmates with LSD and mescaline and put them in solitary confinement until they agreed to anything. Once freed from the hole, the inmate had no will of his own and appeared to be brainwashed. Clifford went on to say that Defreeze had learned in Vacaville the methods to create a mind slave through the use of drugs, torture, and solitary confinement."​

That name "West" is also a bit misleading and the Early Life section clears the air:

Louis Jolyon West - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org