Henry Cejudo reveals damage done from eye poke

Welcome to our Community
Wanting to join the rest of our members? Feel free to Sign Up today.
Sign up

Wild

Zi Nazi
Admin
Dec 31, 2014
94,973
137,878
1740353551082.png

Henry Cejudo faced criticism almost immediately after his fight against Song Yadong was stopped when he couldn’t continue following an eye poke in the third round at UFC Seattle.

The foul forced referee Jason Herzog to pause the action while giving Cejudo five minutes to recover with the ringside physician coming into the octagon to check him over as he tried to recover enough to restart the fight. Cejudo eventually gave the go ahead to continue but as soon as the round ended, he told his coaches rather emphatically “I cannot f*cking see.”

The fight was stopped moments later and Song was actually declared the winner by technical decision because three full rounds had expired, which led to the judges’ scorecards being tallied.

On Sunday, Cejudo posted an up close photo with the damage done to his eye along with a caption that said “diplopia, soft tissue damage, corneal abrasion.”

1740353598598.png

 

Jesus X

4 drink minimum.
Sep 7, 2015
30,502
33,241
Eye injuries seem to be on the rise in mma. Several fighters have damaged their eyes not just from pokes but from strikes too. Being a fighter is a brutal job.
 

Rambo John J

Baker Team
First 100
Jan 17, 2015
78,878
78,112
Eye injuries seem to be on the rise in mma. Several fighters have damaged their eyes not just from pokes but from strikes too. Being a fighter is a brutal job.

I often wonder, should all illegal strikes be penalized?
Seems like the logical solution.

There are 10 points available to each fighter at the start of each round, I don't see why they can't use all 10points, and deduct a point for each foul committed.
 
Last edited:

Uncle Tom Doug

Official TMMAC Racist
Jun 24, 2022
2,932
4,955
I often wonder, should all illegal strikes be penalized?
Seems like the logical solution.

There are 10 points available to each fighter at the start of each round, I don't see why they can't use all 10points, and deduct a point for each foul committed.
They need to start penalizing all eye poke, even accidental ones. Guys have permanently lost their vision because of them, and certain fighters seem to poke their opponents in the eyes every time they fight. That dirty chineser kept extending his fingers, even after the last eye poke.
 

mysticmac

First 1025
Oct 18, 2015
17,306
19,549
So he's got a little blood in his eye...

A lot of people have fought through that. This guy thinks he still has the mentality of a champion... retire.
 

Charlesworth Whankleby

Active Member
Feb 25, 2025
49
69
I often wonder, should all illegal strikes be penalized?
Seems like the logical solution.

There are 10 points available to each fighter at the start of each round, I don't see why they can't use all 10points, and deduct a point for each foul committed.
That would result in a lot of very pissed off bettors, and some absolute dogwater decisions. Juice not worth the squeeze.
 

Rambo John J

Baker Team
First 100
Jan 17, 2015
78,878
78,112
That would result in a lot of very pissed off bettors, and some absolute dogwater decisions. Juice not worth the squeeze.
No
All of that would be adjusted due to all fouls costing a point, fighters would be much more careful.
Bettors are already pissed off every fight for various reasons, and Decisions are regularly horrible.
 

Charlesworth Whankleby

Active Member
Feb 25, 2025
49
69
No
All of that would be adjusted due to all fouls costing a point, fighters would be much more careful.
Bettors are already pissed off every fight for various reasons, and Decisions are regularly horrible.
Maybe. I personally think bad pokes are reasonably uncommon to the point that auto deductions would be detrimental to the sport. Imagine the level of foul-milking, it would rapidly degenerate into pro-soccer-tier levels of absurdity. If fighters were more cautious, fights would be less exciting also. It would devalue the product. Imagine a situation in which fighter X was 10-9'ing clearly every round, only to lose because of a couple of insignificant pokes. I dunno. I'd rather deal with the current state of bullshittery, really.
 

Rambo John J

Baker Team
First 100
Jan 17, 2015
78,878
78,112
Maybe. I personally think bad pokes are reasonably uncommon to the point that auto deductions would be detrimental to the sport. Imagine the level of foul-milking, it would rapidly degenerate into pro-soccer-tier levels of absurdity. If fighters were more cautious, fights would be less exciting also. It would devalue the product. Imagine a situation in which fighter X was 10-9'ing clearly every round, only to lose because of a couple of insignificant pokes. I dunno. I'd rather deal with the current state of bullshittery, really.
Some fighters top weapon when in danger, is an Eye Poke.
That is Absurdity. You can get 3 fouls that alter the fight without a single point taken, those fouls help win rounds and fights.

Don't want to be penalized...Don't foul. Really simple.
 

Papi Chingon

Domesticated Hombre
Oct 19, 2015
30,352
37,634
Some fighters top weapon when in danger, is an Eye Poke.
That is Absurdity. You can get 3 fouls that alter the fight without a single point taken, those fouls help win rounds and fights.

Don't want to be penalized...Don't foul. Really simple.
With moving targets, that makes it really difficult. A kick or knee thrown at an opponent to may move in or out can take a legal shot and make it a groin strike. Same with movement of a head where a push-off turns into a gouge or rake of an eye. Few fighters use these like Jones, where it is obviously intentional. There really isn't a solution, other than ref's digression on whether it was intentional or not. Leave it up to the sanctioning body with instant replay during the timeout? Jones aside, I don't remember the last time I saw a blatant eye poke. 99.9% seem to be unintentional, therefore deducting a point is kind of fucked. You can't change the rules and say no extended fingers, since part of defense is blocking/deflecting punches, and grabbing wrists.
 

Rambo John J

Baker Team
First 100
Jan 17, 2015
78,878
78,112
With moving targets, that makes it really difficult. A kick or knee thrown at an opponent to may move in or out can take a legal shot and make it a groin strike. Same with movement of a head where a push-off turns into a gouge or rake of an eye. Few fighters use these like Jones, where it is obviously intentional. There really isn't a solution, other than ref's digression on whether it was intentional or not. Leave it up to the sanctioning body with instant replay during the timeout? Jones aside, I don't remember the last time I saw a blatant eye poke. 99.9% seem to be unintentional, therefore deducting a point is kind of fucked. You can't change the rules and say no extended fingers, since part of defense is blocking/deflecting punches, and grabbing wrists.
Tons of intentionals IMO
Wiedman landed a two eye poke combo and got the Win recently.

Half of them are intentional due to how they train.

If points were taken, fighters would adjust really quickly, it is known that you can use that technique a few times before you get penalized. Some fighters use that loophole and some don't.

Some fighters never poke a single eye, that is because they don't train or fight that way.

Just my take, we will likely agree to disagree.
 

Papi Chingon

Domesticated Hombre
Oct 19, 2015
30,352
37,634
Tons of intentionals IMO
Wiedman landed a two eye poke combo and got the Win recently.

Half of them are intentional due to how they train.

If points were taken fighters would adjust really quickly, it is known that you can use that technique a few times before you get penalized. Some fighters use that loophole and some don't.

Some fighters never poke a single eye, that is because they don't train or fight that way.
Intentional means they are trying to eye poke. I disagree, unless we are talking Jones.

Blocking/deflecting with the hand can and does end up closer to the face. Pushoffs can and do end up on the face when maintaining distance. Sometimes it is meant for the forehead or top of head, and other times it is meant for level changes but the posture of the opponent changes, or doesn't change if it was a feint.
 

Rambo John J

Baker Team
First 100
Jan 17, 2015
78,878
78,112
Intentional means they are trying to eye poke. I disagree, unless we are talking Jones.

Blocking/deflecting with the hand can and does end up closer to the face. Pushoffs can and do end up on the face when maintaining distance. Sometimes it is meant for the forehead or top of head, and other times it is meant for level changes but the posture of the opponent changes, or doesn't change if it was a feint.
It is a trained defense, some fighters don't ever let their hands get in the eyes and some do it every single exchange. Training and intention.

A foul is a foul, a warning means nothing. Many of these fouls change fights.
 

Papi Chingon

Domesticated Hombre
Oct 19, 2015
30,352
37,634
It is a trained defense, some fighters don't ever let their hands get in the eyes and some do it every single exchange. Training and intention.

A foul is a foul, a warning means nothing. Many of these fouls change fights.
Combat is hit and don't get hit. Defense is important. This isn't the slap fight league. There is a reason why you basically never see an eye poke on the ground. That would be completely intentional. Standing with fast twitch muscles, both fighters throwing or feinting, inches are miles, and shit can and will happen, both good and bad. No way to get around eye pokes without moving to boxing gloves, but this isn't boxing. Free fingers always will be an issue.
 

Rambo John J

Baker Team
First 100
Jan 17, 2015
78,878
78,112
Combat is hit and don't get hit. Defense is important. This isn't the slap fight league. There is a reason why you basically never see an eye poke on the ground. That would be completely intentional. Standing with fast twitch muscles, both fighters throwing or feinting, inches are miles, and shit can and will happen, both good and bad. No way to get around eye pokes without moving to boxing gloves, but this isn't boxing. Free fingers always will be an issue.
Fouls should be penalized, or else they are normalized
Illegal strikes that change fights should have consequences

We will have to Agree to disagree
 

supersonic

Posting Machine
Sep 4, 2015
1,190
1,601
If points were taken, fighters would adjust really quickly, it is known that you can use that technique a few times before you get penalized. Some fighters use that loophole and some don't.
So few points are ever taken away, it's not even accurate to say someone can poke a few times before a penalty. It so rarely done, the penalty doesn't exist for all intents and purposes

Look at Jones, I don't think he has ever been verbally warned a single time