LOLRogan was talking about how the Chinese cut their creatine with dbol and people use it to cut coke.
Jons birthday was 10 days out from m his fight so having some bumps is a real possibility.
Joe is being deliberately dishonest, not stupid here. He knows damn well that Jones is a juicehead.LOL
love how Joe is always trying to believe his goat was a natural goat
goats just aren't natural...that is how nature and sports work.
And I don't by that for a second...read the steroids effects....it is a checklist of jon jones attributes except for abnormal reach
OK...I am still listening...I just know he gets attached to a Goat claim when he makes one despite the contrary evidenceJoe is being deliberately dishonest, not stupid here. He knows damn well that Jones is a juicehead.
Oh, I'm not saying he isn't a dipshit hero-worshipper as well. He's both a moron and a liar.OK...I am still listening...I just know he gets attached to a Goat claim when he makes one despite the contrary evidence
he still calls Cain goat HW when Fabricio has beaten both goats and ton more top guys in the last 7 years
Oh, I'm not saying he isn't a dipshit hero-worshipper as well. He's both a moron and a liar.
Yes, he is.Watch your mouth. Hogan is amazing.
Post of the year. Easy.Yes, he is.
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Reach, team, techniques, gameplan and heart to push thru tough shit (gus) cant be earned thru steroidsLOL
love how Joe is always trying to believe his goat was a natural goat
goats just aren't natural...that is how nature and sports work.
And I don't by that for a second...read the steroids effects....it is a checklist of jon jones attributes except for abnormal reach
Technique can be earned from steroids... you can literally spend more time in the gym and recover faster, thus spending more time working technique... probably gameplan too since you can work your strategy in sparring more (because your body is able to train more) It may not give you heart but it’ll give you more conditioning ..... along with all the other benefits it has for fightersReach, team, techniques, gameplan and heart to push thru tough shit (gus) cant be earned thru steroids
The rest might be steroids i dont know
Vitor had never thrown kicks before his trt revival.Technique can be earned from steroids... you can literally spend more time in the gym and recover faster, thus spending more time working technique... probably gameplan too since you can work your strategy in sparring more (because your body is able to train more) It may not give you heart but it’ll give you more conditioning ..... along with all the other benefits it has for fighters
I understand this. But to say jones was a guy with reach and steroids made him the goat is crazy. By that logic lets shoot up neil magny who has 80inchs at ww and watch him do jon jones shit. It dont work that way.Technique can be earned from steroids... you can literally spend more time in the gym and recover faster, thus spending more time working technique... probably gameplan too since you can work your strategy in sparring more (because your body is able to train more) It may not give you heart but it’ll give you more conditioning ..... along with all the other benefits it has for fighters
I never said that but it’s always possible that that is the truth... If he was doing steroids most of his career, there’s no knowing how good he would’ve been without steroids, only that he wouldn’t be as good as he is nowI understand this. But to say jones was a guy with reach and steroids made him the goat is crazy. By that logic lets shoot up neil magny who has 80inchs at ww and watch him do jon jones shit. It dont work that way.
But im aware of the benefits of steroids and im looking to score
They are all on steroids except bisbing and MMI never said that but it’s always possible that that is the truth... If he was doing steroids most of his career, there’s no knowing how good he would’ve been without steroids, only that he wouldn’t be as good as he is now
I always say jones wouldn’t be as good if he didn’t have a huge reach advantage every fight... but that’s kind of irrelevant because everyone has to work with what they’re born with and their styles will be developed based on that...
he’s smart in that his style of fighting works extremely well with his size and he enhances his advantage in length even more by striking the way he does. Add his wrestling and ground and pound and jiu jitsu skills and he’s a very competent fighter in most, if not all areas of mma.
Regardless of steroids or not, he’s still one of the best ever mma fighters... but there’s no knowing how much steroids had an impact on that. Only he knows
As someone who believe that everyone is on steroids, this explanation makes perfect sense. Some of the posters here are missing the point.Rogan was talking about how the Chinese cut their creatine with dbol and people use it to cut coke.
Jons birthday was 10 days out from m his fight so having some bumps is a real possibility.
OK...I am still listening...I just know he gets attached to a Goat claim when he makes one despite the contrary evidence
he still calls Cain goat HW when Fabricio has beaten both goats and ton more top guys in the last 7 years
They are all on steroids except bisbing and MM
Well, he did train with the guy who headed up the program. So there's that.I also love how when ever the name Fedor is brought up ...Joe immediately asks ..have you seen Icarus? or brings up Russian doping ...alluding to the fact he feels Fedor was juicing....this little 4'9 troll keeps spouting off mumbo jumbo.
The tell tale of HGH usage is a giant head...They are all on steroids except bisbing and MM
I think there’s a lot more clean fighters than people think..They are all on steroids except bisbing and MM
he is a beastReach, team, techniques, gameplan and heart to push thru tough shit (gus) cant be earned thru steroids
The rest might be steroids i dont know
You should really read more.I think there’s a lot more clean fighters than people think.
Tell me most fighters are on PEDS when more than half the roster is caught by USADA for using. Until then, unproven allegations against 99% of fighters isn’t good enough for meYou should really read more.