Stipe Isn’t marketable

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Sheepdog

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When the UFC say "not marketable" they actually mean "won't kiss ass"
There's this and there's also the fact that the fanbase will often just declare someone (often with the UFC's encouragement) to be 'marketable' or not based on absolutely nothing.
 

aghof

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an american-sounding name and 6 months of diction training and he'd be a superstar
 

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an american-sounding name and 6 months of diction training and he'd be a superstar
yeah right, or at least an american sounding or referencing nickname would probably do the trick as well
 

Robbie Hart

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A lot of haters for what seems like a guy you’d happily invite to Christmas dinner
 

ShakaSway

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The problem with Stipe is they wanted Francis to win. Thats about it.
 

ender852

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He's like weidman 2.0, I didnt give a crap about that "all-american" goodguy shit then, and I don't now. It just bores the shit out of me. Zzzzzzzzz
 

Lukewarm Carl

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Yeh man..Ng-gah-noo sounds American as as a Trump rally
Yes but he was the big scary monster that eats your children and steals your wife.


Stipe could be marketable as hell. His name is unfortunate. But the fact that he doesn't want to do any of the press shit between fights is a giant obstacle. Hell, he's even too personable for them to try to go the Fedor -stoic killer route but not enough to be the outgoing guy that wants his face everywhere. It's awkward.
 

nuraknu

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Yes but he was the big scary monster that eats your children and steals your wife.


Stipe could be marketable as hell. His name is unfortunate. But the fact that he doesn't want to do any of the press shit between fights is a giant obstacle. Hell, he's even too personable for them to try to go the Fedor -stoic killer route but not enough to be the outgoing guy that wants his face everywhere. It's awkward.
Stipe has done some great stuff. Pretty sure I've seen him visiting kids and going overseas. It's not like he hides and does nothing.
 

SensoriaUtopia

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This is all on WME, that simple. Where Peyton Manning and Barry Sanders exciting personalities? No, they are as boring as a person can get and they have the excitability of chalk on a blackboard. The NFL actually has smart marketing people and they can take the most boring football player, and turn him into a gigantic star. Meanwhile in MMA even guys with personality like Tony Ferg and Al Iaquinta the UFC and WME has zero ability to promote them.

Its on WME ya'll
 

Lukewarm Carl

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Stipe has done some great stuff. Pretty sure I've seen him visiting kids and going overseas. It's not like he hides and does nothing.
Of course he does things. What he wants to do. Certainly not Conan and Fallon and Late night tv that they try to do with their prize ponies.
 

nuraknu

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This is all on WME, that simple. Where Peyton Manning and Barry Sanders exciting personalities? No, they are as boring as a person can get and they have the excitability of chalk on a blackboard. The NFL actually has smart marketing people and they can take the most boring football player, and turn him into a gigantic star. Meanwhile in MMA even guys with personality like Tony Ferg and Al Iaquinta the UFC and WME has zero ability to promote them.

Its on WME ya'll
Lol. I just posted in the other thread about how the social media person WME cut from the UFC went to work for the Super Bowl.
 

Rambo John J

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so likable

was a big fan of Werdum

glad his belt went to Stipe

such a big lovable goof
 

aghof

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Yeah, just like GSP, Anderson Silva, and Francis Ngannou.
all of whom are... not American.

The natural marketing angle for a guy like Stipe is the blue-collar All-American apple pie-eating, ass-kicking firefighter, but his name sounds like that guy on your favorite NBA team who can drain 3s but is too soft on defense. It's like a farmer-wrestler from Illinois walking out to the strains of "Country Boy Can Survive" with the name Darko Miličić.

...and nobody can understand a word he says!
 

Silverball

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all of whom are... not American.

The natural marketing angle for a guy like Stipe is the blue-collar All-American apple pie-eating, ass-kicking firefighter, but his name sounds like that guy on your favorite NBA team who can drain 3s but is too soft on defense. It's like a farmer-wrestler from Illinois walking out to the strains of "Country Boy Can Survive" with the name Darko Miličić.

...and nobody can understand a word he says!
Some guys, professional athletes, in particular, are well spoken and some are not. Historically this has not been determining factor on how well they were paid (which has always been Stipe's main complaint) or how popular they were with fans. In some cases, guys like Michael Jordan or Muhammad Ali transcend their sport in terms of popularity, but guys like Rickey Henderson, Mike Tyson, and Tommy Hearns also did pretty well for themselves without having to sound like Denzel Washington when addressing the press. Kids today grew up with Mumble Rap, so I don't think they're that concerned about fighters annunciating every syllable. Look, if the UFC did something as simple as giving Stipe one of those "Looking For A Fight" type shows on YouTube and Fight Pass, I think we'd see a noticeable upswing in his popularity.
 

aghof

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all of whom are... not American.

The natural marketing angle for a guy like Stipe is the blue-collar All-American apple pie-eating, ass-kicking firefighter - and that's what they're trying to promote - but his name sounds like that guy on your favorite NBA team who can drain 3s but is too soft on defense. It's like a farmer-wrestler from Illinois walking out to the strains of "Country Boy Can Survive" with the name Darko Miličić.

...and nobody can understand a word he says!
Some guys, professional athletes, in particular, are well spoken and some are not. Historically this has not been determining factor on how well they were paid (which has always been Stipe's main complaint) or how popular they were with fans. In some cases, guys like Michael Jordan or Muhammad Ali transcend their sport in terms of popularity, but guys like Rickey Henderson, Mike Tyson, and Tommy Hearns also did pretty well for themselves without having to sound like Denzel Washington when addressing the press. Kids today grew up with Mumble Rap, so I don't think they're that concerned about fighters annunciating every syllable. Look, if the UFC did something as simple as giving Stipe one of those "Looking For A Fight" type shows on YouTube and Fight Pass, I think we'd see a noticeable upswing in his popularity.
excellent post... I was going for a humorous "6 months of sprawl training" bit with my original post, but I do think it would help if he's not just "the guy nobody can understand "
I have cousins from Cleveland, so I'm used to the accent, but at least people know what they mean when they say "assault and bee-attery" or "I pulled my cee-alf muscle dee-ancing in the flee-ats"

hey, maybe the "gravelly mumbler" can be a positive gimmick, you never know
 

Onetrickpony

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excellent post... I was going for a humorous "6 months of sprawl training" bit with my original post, but I do think it would help if he's not just "the guy nobody can understand "
I have cousins from Cleveland, so I'm used to the accent, but at least people know what they mean when they say "assault and bee-attery" or "I pulled my cee-alf muscle dee-ancing in the flee-ats"

hey, maybe the "gravelly mumbler" can be a positive gimmick, you never know
I’ve dont see why people can’t understand him. I’ve never been to Cleveland and I think he speaks perfectly fine.
 

SensoriaUtopia

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Yeah, just like GSP, Anderson Silva, and Francis Ngannou.

Anderson even in his prime was not pulling great PPV numbers, look at the PPV sales during his prime run. I know its crazy, shows you how fucking lame most MMA fans are, they will buy CM punk but ignore Anderosn in his prime. It used to be talked about years ago how Anderson's ppv numbers where low.

Also Ngannou is not a star yet, probably will be but is not one yet

And GSP is from Cananda and handsome
 

SensoriaUtopia

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Some guys, professional athletes, in particular, are well spoken and some are not. Historically this has not been determining factor on how well they were paid (which has always been Stipe's main complaint) or how popular they were with fans. In some cases, guys like Michael Jordan or Muhammad Ali transcend their sport in terms of popularity, but guys like Rickey Henderson, Mike Tyson, and Tommy Hearns also did pretty well for themselves without having to sound like Denzel Washington when addressing the press. Kids today grew up with Mumble Rap, so I don't think they're that concerned about fighters annunciating every syllable. Look, if the UFC did something as simple as giving Stipe one of those "Looking For A Fight" type shows on YouTube and Fight Pass, I think we'd see a noticeable upswing in his popularity.

100% accurate, it really all comes down to how incapable WME is at marketing, promoting and handling fighters.
 

ender852

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I’ve dont see why people can’t understand him. I’ve never been to Cleveland and I think he speaks perfectly fine.
Personally I think it's the gravelly voice combined with the monotone speaking, all words in the sentence are the same inflection, not some regional dialect thing, like a physical vocal cord thing combined with a flat delivery
 

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Blue collar, down to earth, saves people’s lives when he isn’t fighting, takes lives when he is, and funny as hell. He’s 100% marketable, the UFC just sucks at it.