VID The truth behind Evan Tanners death - by Bobby Razak

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Pitbull9

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Man that was fucking sad. Evan will always be remembered by all of us and I hope he somehow knew that.
 

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Evan was definitely an interesting, and at times, troubled man. But he seemed like a truly gentle soul, and a genuinely caring individual. I would have loved to have met him, and told him how much I respected him as a person.
 

Star-Lord

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Sad man. Evan is someone I will always respect not just for his fighting but more importantly his principles
 

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He was a true pioneer. He didn't want fame he just was a soft spoken man that loved to fight. I feel honored to have met him.
 

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I feel I did yes. Was there a part for you that I could have gone deeper? Would love the feedback.
I thought it was very well done, and respectful of Evan. I think the question so many have is, why. Why did he decided to take that hike w/ only one water bag...when he had plenty of water at his camp. And that's not a question you or anyone can answer. Only Evan knew the answer. Just tragic that this happened, when it could have been avoided.
 

Bobby Razak

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I thought it was very well done, and respectful of Evan. I think the question so many have is, why. Why did he decided to take that hike w/ only one water bag...when he had plenty of water at his camp. And that's not a question you or anyone can answer. Only Evan knew the answer. Just tragic that this happened, when it could have been avoided.
I Felt it was his ego. To cancel his trip and concede defeat was not in his mental makeup. Especially with all the blogs he was putting out. That my opinion.
 

WoodenPupa

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This was exceptionally well done Bobby. I would have liked to have seen more video footage of Tanner, but overall this is about as good as it gets. I liked the part where the guy talks about the "power of one" affecting Evan's decision to not seek help in the nearby town. That sounded very plausible to me.
 

Bobby Razak

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This was exceptionally well done Bobby. I would have liked to have seen more video footage of Tanner, but overall this is about as good as it gets. I liked the part where the guy talks about the "power of one" affecting Evan's decision to not seek help in the nearby town. That sounded very plausible to me.
Agreed I didn't have much footage of him plus was approaching it from a investigative slant.
 

WoodenPupa

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I Felt it was his ego. To cancel his trip and concede defeat was not in his mental makeup. Especially with all the blogs he was putting out. That my opinion.
Well, it sounds like he thought there would be water at the spring location. The crucial decision IMO came after that discovery, when he opted to not seek help in the nearby town. But yeah, the same rationale holds. "The power of one".
 

Bobby Razak

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Well, it sounds like he thought there would be water at the spring location. The crucial decision IMO came after that discovery, when he opted to not seek help in the nearby town. But yeah, the same rationale holds. "The power of one".
Was referring after he found out there was no water in Clapp Springs. He should have just went to town, but opted not 2. Didn't want to quit on the hike.
 

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Was referring after he found out there was no water in Clapp Springs. He should have just went to town, but opted not 2. Didn't want to quit on the hike.
Interesting. Evan certainly was a prideful man, and that pride (and ego) likely killed him. Just a damn shame that he left us so soon.
 

WoodenPupa

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After thinking about this, I'm not sure it's fair to say his ego killed him. Remember, in the early going he sent some text messages asking for help, so that immediately complicates the issue. I'm not sure how quickly he expected help to arrive, or whether he anticipated the difficulties in locating someone who keeps on the move. But clearly he was open to getting help at one point.

What I think happened is that he interpreted the lack of help arriving as a (mystical) sign that he was supposed to make it out alive on his own. In fact, getting in touch with his "power of one" credo might have given him some inner confidence that led him to make a bad decision to not detour into the nearby town.

A picture like this is substantially different than one of stubborn pride, IMO. His preparation and planning don't indicate a haughty attitude, one that would make him believe that he could get himself out of any danger no matter what the circumstances. Evan put a lot of thought and care into his journey---he just made a couple of mistakes along the way.

I think it IS fair to say that his beliefs influenced the fatal decision he made (to not seek help in the nearby town), but I'm not so sure we can reduce his decision to pride, per se. If he thought what lay ahead was a test of his strength, or fate itself ("I'm meant to keep walking, and not stop at this town") that's different than thinking "I've got this. No problem."

So, I don't think we remove pride from the equation, but it's fairer to Evan to put it in the right context.
 

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After thinking about this, I'm not sure it's fair to say his ego killed him. Remember, in the early going he sent some text messages asking for help, so that immediately complicates the issue. I'm not sure how quickly he expected help to arrive, or whether he anticipated the difficulties in locating someone who keeps on the move. But clearly he was open to getting help at one point.

What I think happened is that he interpreted the lack of help arriving as a (mystical) sign that he was supposed to make it out alive on his own. In fact, getting in touch with his "power of one" credo might have given him some inner confidence that led him to make a bad decision to not detour into the nearby town.

A picture like this is substantially different than one of stubborn pride, IMO. His preparation and planning don't indicate a haughty attitude, one that would make him believe that he could get himself out of any danger no matter what the circumstances. Evan put a lot of thought and care into his journey---he just made a couple of mistakes along the way.

I think it IS fair to say that his beliefs influenced the fatal decision he made (to not seek help in the nearby town), but I'm not so sure we can reduce his decision to pride, per se. If he thought what lay ahead was a test of his strength, or fate itself ("I'm meant to keep walking, and not stop at this town") that's different than thinking "I've got this. No problem."

So, I don't think we remove pride from the equation, but it's fairer to Evan to put it in the right context.
Very well said WoodenPupa @WoodenPupa. Apologies if any of my comments came off as disrespectful to Evan. I promise that wasn't the intent. I wish like hell that he was still here with us.