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Wild

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Alot of people saying larkin will beat lima and they must be forgetting larkin is 5-5 in his last 10 fights.

Im going with lima
People definitely sleeping on Lima. Dude is legit as fuck. That is going to be a great fight. I'm thinking Lima may submit Larkin.
 

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I'm going down to the bookies tomorrow to see what kind of odds I can get on this.....wife is away this weekend and will be drunk and not notice the withdrawals.
£50 parlay


I just put it into bet365 and they will pay +25900
Roughly 13k on a 50bet
 

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People definitely sleeping on Lima. Dude is legit as fuck. That is going to be a great fight. I'm thinking Lima may submit Larkin.
Agree with your reasoning -- probably Lima is the only one who will try to wrestle/grapple at all -- but Lima has a (-n effective, especially defensively for a guy who moves so little) plodding style, and power, but Larkin is a lot quicker and puts 2 and 3 pack counter combos together really well, in harder to see ways. OTOH, Lima also fights longer, making up a little for the speed & movement gap.

I hate the odds for all these, both the UFC and Bellator cards, although some were playable early, before the heavy early money came down. Took Felice at -115, Phil at -120 (small, half a bet), and that's it. Normally with 2 cards in a weekend, my whole deposit is bet out at some point halfway through the 1st card. Not gonna even come close to that this time, even with bets out on Reem & Cormier (+235, will probably buy some Jones later if he gets down below 215 or so to reduce to one bet and up the Cormier pay odds).

If Moroz was with a team that has shown ability to prepare fighters for wrestlers (her team is same as coached Yair for Frankie), that would be one to look at. Miranda has the skill to catch Vettori, but he probably won't.

Can't bring myself to play Primus, though the odds probably justify it (+580 right now). He has some cool & unusual JJ but Chandler probably stays within the lines, & doesn't get caught, and Primus's striking is a little less than so-so for the top of the B-level. Chandler should wrestle him to (a living?) death.

Someone has been betting down Tony Martin over Case. Hoping Martin gets hit hard again so I can buy some Case. IMO that's a pick-em -- offsetting skill sets & neither has great cardio. If Martin was a cardio machine, that would justify playing him to get it late. I would expect Case to either edge the 1st two or go 1 and 1, then the 3rd round is a toss-up. Martin showed some improved cardio recently, but Case could do the same in this one.
 

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Re Reem vs Werdum, while I'm at it: I suspect Werdum can't wrestle any more, sort of like Mir can't (knee or foot problems, maybe). If you look at his recent fights, he butt flops instead of really effectively attacking greco takedowns or making effective shots. Reem isn't likely to overaggress, so he probably pot shots Werdum for 3 rounds if he doesn't finish him or get lucky shotted.
 

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I've find 888sport.com are the best bookies for MMA, they seem to cover a lot of promotions. They have betting on the Pico fight for anyone interested and are covering 9 fights on the Bellator card. Most are win markets only though.
 

Robbie Hart

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Betsafe will for sure.
Many of the other 'major' bookies are only betting on 3 or 4 fights
Putting me money where me mouth is on this one.
Had a chat with the local mafia guy who wouldn't take my bet but walked me down to a local ship and made the guy take the bet.....
£10 to win £1600







He said no problem and said "you stand to win....(typing it up on his phone).....£16........uh (very slowly) £1,600.00......
 

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Agree with your reasoning -- probably Lima is the only one who will try to wrestle/grapple at all -- but Lima has a (-n effective, especially defensively for a guy who moves so little) plodding style, and power, but Larkin is a lot quicker and puts 2 and 3 pack counter combos together really well, in harder to see ways. OTOH, Lima also fights longer, making up a little for the speed & movement gap.

I hate the odds for all these, both the UFC and Bellator cards, although some were playable early, before the heavy early money came down. Took Felice at -115, Phil at -120 (small, half a bet), and that's it. Normally with 2 cards in a weekend, my whole deposit is bet out at some point halfway through the 1st card. Not gonna even come close to that this time, even with bets out on Reem & Cormier (+235, will probably buy some Jones later if he gets down below 215 or so to reduce to one bet and up the Cormier pay odds).

If Moroz was with a team that has shown ability to prepare fighters for wrestlers (her team is same as coached Yair for Frankie), that would be one to look at. Miranda has the skill to catch Vettori, but he probably won't.

Can't bring myself to play Primus, though the odds probably justify it (+580 right now). He has some cool & unusual JJ but Chandler probably stays within the lines, & doesn't get caught, and Primus's striking is a little less than so-so for the top of the B-level. Chandler should wrestle him to (a living?) death.

Someone has been betting down Tony Martin over Case. Hoping Martin gets hit hard again so I can buy some Case. IMO that's a pick-em -- offsetting skill sets & neither has great cardio. If Martin was a cardio machine, that would justify playing him to get it late. I would expect Case to either edge the 1st two or go 1 and 1, then the 3rd round is a toss-up. Martin showed some improved cardio recently, but Case could do the same in this one.
I don't like Felice in that fight, but that's just me.

I like the Davis play.

Agree on Chandler. Think it's a tough fight and Primus will hang in there, but Chandler's too experienced.

I picked Martin to submit Case, but agree with your assessment of that fight and it being a pick em.
 

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Putting me money where me mouth is on this one.
Had a chat with the local mafia guy who wouldn't take my bet but walked me down to a local ship and made the guy take the bet.....
£10 to win £1600







He said no problem and said "you stand to win....(typing it up on his phone).....£16........uh (very slowly) £1,600.00......
Good luck man
I only have $10 On primus, hope the other 2 come through as well
 

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Anyone fancy offering me decent odds on Phil Davis to win by KO?
Can't get on with any bookies in the UK offering it...
 
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Unibet gives Pico -590, Freeman +350. Only for euro bettors though, I think.
 

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I don't like Felice in that fight, but that's just me.

I like the Davis play.

Agree on Chandler. Think it's a tough fight and Primus will hang in there, but Chandler's too experienced.

I picked Martin to submit Case, but agree with your assessment of that fight and it being a pick em.
Did you catch Herrigs last fight? I had already written her off but her performance was very impressive imo. She looked like a completely different fighter with much higher fight IQ and aggression. I have much more faith in her now. If she can look similar the fights in the bag.
 

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5dimes just added lines for AXS and Cagewarriors. The juice is 40 on 200 (high), but this one is worth looking at:

Cage Warriors 85 - Middleweight 5 rounds - O2 Academy - Bornemouth, England
Sat 6/24 5001 Oskar Piechota -195
5:00PM 5002 Jason Radcliffe +155

Radcliffe has "death touch" right hand, is an exceptional athlete, and probably has underrated JJ, with the deeper gas tank (and a size advantage). I would have made it Radcliffe -155 or -165, true odds, but the footage was limited. Piechota looks to be very good subgrappler, but could find it hard to execute against a bigger, quicker, stronger, more athletic opponent with decent (maybe borderline purple? hard to say) JJ.

Probably gonna skip the AXS. 40 on 200 is just wrong on principle.
 

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Did you catch Herrigs last fight? I had already written her off but her performance was very impressive imo. She looked like a completely different fighter with much higher fight IQ and aggression. I have much more faith in her now. If she can look similar the fights in the bag.
Fully agree. Seems like Felice has turned a corner in her last 2, post PVZ. Grasso is a BIG win for her that took a lot to pull off, and IMO a tougher opp overall than Kish. I would expect her to edge this on better grappling. I doubted her mental constitution & prep in the past as well.
 

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Did you catch Herrigs last fight? I had already written her off but her performance was very impressive imo. She looked like a completely different fighter with much higher fight IQ and aggression. I have much more faith in her now. If she can look similar the fights in the bag.
Yes and she looked great defeating Grasso. I just wonder if she can maintain that consistency, plus Kish is very tough opponent.
 

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Yehhh...fwiw I just looked at Chinzo vs Gallagher. It's not the greatest match-up for Chinzo, though he can win. His weakness is he doesn't wrestle well and doesn't get up well (doesn't seem to really care about either).

He could manage to stand long enough to surprise Gallagher with one of his crazy lights-out shots (the right hand straight or his nutty, deadly uppercut, or some crazy spinning business) but Gallagher boxes well enough to probably hang until he can get a clinch, and he's enough of a jj wiz that he might actually submit Chinzo. G's gas tank is also pretty good; his will looks undeterrable. He has three ways to win, Chinzo probably only has one where he's more likely to win that way than Gallagher. +190 is probaby about right, maybe even a little short of right.
 

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Did you catch Herrigs last fight? I had already written her off but her performance was very impressive imo. She looked like a completely different fighter with much higher fight IQ and aggression. I have much more faith in her now. If she can look similar the fights in the bag.
And, more importantly, she is hot as fuck
 

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Just went on to bet365 to do my final bets and theyve added some fights for tonight
Couture is -400
Phil Davis -138
Bader - +110
Seems to be money coming in on fedor, he's moved to even +100