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The Big Guy

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You've watched too many movies, mate.

Cartels are also "organized crime". Criminals are criminals.
Yes your right. Other than weed dealers and the occasional ass whipper i dont like criminals. And suprise ive been to prison and know extensively how bad these guys really are.... But people who are organized are harder to prosecute which is bad but at the same time they dont have drugged up street gangs shooting constantly and committing large amouts of visable and local crimes in their communitys and usually being involved in rape robbery/murder and then snitch on everyone they know. 0 respect from the criminal community

Think of the Italian mafia compared to the hundreds of chicago gangs comprised of uneducated and repeatedly arrested "thugs" that kill people at record breaking numbers over small petty drug beefs and sloppy fist fights. Not a planned out hit by professional criminals who 95% of the time dont negatively influence the children in the area due to secrecy and preparation.

Its hard to explain but people like snoop who poisoned nearly an entire generation of black youth into killing eachother at a unprecedented rate are much worse imo than a few old wiseguys stealing construction contracts or planning a large heist.

Either way ive been exposed to a lifetime of criminal activity and i can accurately gauge a person involved in crime.
 
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I know my odds of getting an answer (understandably) aren't very good..........but.....
What did you do?
I was charged with robbery with a firearm at 17. I didnt do the robbery (it was for a large owed drug debt that a memebr of my old gang had owed to him by the "victim")

Basically we were out eating a nice meal and my co defendent seen the dealer who wouldnt pay up and we followed him. We caught him in a alley and asked for his money. I was/am a calculated criminal and never commit any opportunity crimes or let emotions be involved during the offense. The junkie dealer refused to pay and said "Fuck you nigger shoot me"

I immediately go out of the car cause my friend was the kind of crazy you meet once in a lifetime and was a great mma prospect. (I still cant beat him standing today 10 years later and he hasnt trained 3 years)
I told the victim its not worth getting shot for and to give him something and stop being combative. At the time i thought i was calming the situation and the guy gave him half the money on him which was about 400$ and then agreed to pay off the rest later. Then we left and i forgot about it until a month later a swat team broke down my door and charged me with robbery. This pussy drug dealer called the cops cause he thought we would kill him.

The robbery detective said by convincing him to a payment schedule i was a principle in the robbery. Also that if i would have reported the "crime" i wouldnt have been charged. Then me and my codefendant would not give up the third guy in the car and the prosecutors didnt appreciate it.

So we spent a few years in a gladiator camp that was notorious for gangs, armed assaults, armed robbery and murder in the prison. Its been shut down after decades of violence that would make a mma fans stomach twist in knots. It made me tougher and i learned alot about the shittest people in florida

Thats my case
 
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KWingJitsu

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This is an immigration issue.

These guys should be on the "DO NOT ENTER" list with that many convictions.
Good point actually.
If the same were reversed, they would have been turned back at the airport. Like England did Snoop Dogg.
 

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don't tell anyone but we may have another Teamquestnorth/Psychotropic Wanderlust extravaganza on our hands here
 

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Dana White and Conor have turned MMA into boxing............
 
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Come out here on holiday bro and we can roll you have pm. Today my daughter was born so I'm very much happy Love to you all on the forum
Im not flying to africa to fight you in the dirt for a holiday. Congrats on the daughter.
 

Andrewsimar Palhardass

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I was charged with robbery with a firearm at 17. I didnt do the robbery (it was for a large owed drug debt that a memebr of my old gang had owed to him by the "victim")

Basically we were out eating a nice meal and my co defendent seen the dealer who wouldnt pay up and we followed him. We caught him in a alley and asked for his money. I was/am a calculated criminal and never commit any opportunity crimes or let emotions be involved during the offense. The junkie dealer refused to pay and said "Fuck you nigger shoot me"

I immediately go out of the car cause my friend was the kind of crazy you meet once in a lifetime and was a great mma prospect. (I still cant beat him standing today 10 years later and he hasnt trained 3 years)
I told the victim its not worth getting shot for and to give him something and stop being combative. At the time i thought i was calming the situation and the guy gave him half the money on him which was about 400$ and then agreed to pay off the rest later. Then we left and i forgot about it until a month later a swat team broke down my door and charged me with robbery. This pussy drug dealer called the cops cause he thought we would kill him.

The robbery detective said by convincing him to a payment schedule i was a principle in the robbery. Also that if i would have reported the "crime" i wouldnt have been charged. Then me and my codefendant would not give up the third guy in the car and the prosecutors didnt appreciate it.

So we spent a few years in a gladiator camp that was notorious for gangs, armed assaults, armed robbery and murder in the prison. Its been shut down after decades of violence that would make a mma fans stomach twist in knots. It made me tougher and i learned alot about the shittest people in florida

Thats my case
I really appreciate you telling your story.

Surprised the dude called the cops. Maybe he came to the conclusion that he was never going to have the money to pay, so he could solve his problem by getting cops involved. That's crazy.
 
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Yes your right. Other than weed dealers and the occasional ass whipper i dont like criminals. And suprise ive been to prison and know extensively how bad these guys really are.... But people who are organized are harder to prosecute which is bad but at the same time they dont have drugged up street gangs shooting constantly and committing large amouts of visable and local crimes in their communitys and usually being involved in rape robbery/murder and then snitch on everyone they know. 0 respect from the criminal community

Think of the Italian mafia compared to the hundreds of chicago gangs comprised of uneducated and repeatedly arrested "thugs" that kill people at record breaking numbers over small petty drug beefs and sloppy fist fights. Not a planned out hit by professional criminals who 95% of the time dont negatively influence the children in the area due to secrecy and preparation.

Its hard to explain but people like snoop who poisoned nearly an entire generation of black youth into killing eachother at a unprecedented rate are much worse imo than a few old wiseguys stealing construction contracts or planning a large heist.

Either way ive been exposed to a lifetime of criminal activity and i can accurately gauge a person involved in crime.
Not to be nosy' but maybe I'm misunderstanding you... You do realize that the less
structured and organized criminals are all being supplied and working for the higher up
more organized crime syndicates don't you?
 
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The Big Guy

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Not to be nosy' but maybe I'm misunderstanding you... You do realize that the less
structured and organized criminals are all being supplied and working for the higher up
more organized crime syndicates don't you?
Not always working for them but definately buying drugs from and doing hits for the higher ups.

Alot of gangs buy from cartel sources but usually dont do hits.

I personally know a group of marijuana traffickers that are old and white and they are pretty much hippies. They sell large quantities 25lbs 50lbs whatever and dont do any fighting. But they sell at a really reduced rate to a local black street gang and in return for low prices the gang is the muscle for them. Cant say any details but if you owe these white dudes you will get a visit from these black dudes

So yes it does happen. I still prefer organized criminals tho. I hate property crime and all the little petty shit the small gangs or just idiots do