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Floyd Mayweather: we were willing to give Conor McGregor $15 million
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Mayweather.
I think you missed the point of my post.
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There really isn't much of a correlation between stacked cards and high PPV buys. It maybe adds 100k buys, but for the most part the card lives and dies on the headliner.
Here's the main card for UFC 196
McGregor vs Diaz
Holm vs Tate
Latifi vs Villante
Corey Anderson vs Tom Lawler
Nunes vs Shevchenko
Compare that to UFC 198
Miocic vs Werdum
Jacare vs Belfort
Cyborg vs leslie smith
Shogun vs Corey Anderson
Bryan Barbarena vs Warley Alves
UFC 198 did 200k buys.
My point is Manny got 40% and is a smaller draw than McGregor. McGregor can absolutely hold out for at least the same split as Manny, in this hypothetical, if unlikely, fight. Mayweather has had those big numbers, but he doesn't want to fight any of the top contenders in boxing anymore, because they either won't do the numbers, or he is worried about losing to them. If he wants a big payday, which should be an easy W, then McGregor is the only game in town, which gives McGregor leverage.
yeah, as the promoter he will make more, but we are talking about purse/ppv split, not what Mayweather makes on the back end.
I see what you are saying but disagree. The leverage is always in favor of those who write the checks. On top of that, Mayweather is retired with a record of 49-0. Since he is retired, that also gives him more leverage. And last thing, nobody is begging for this fight (unlike the pacman fight for 10years), so if mcgregor wants a once in a lifetime payday, that is also in mayweathers favor since the longer he stays retired, the less likely the fight will ever come to fruition. I honestly don't see a single advantage for mcgregor in negotiating. Certainly demanding an unrealistic number of $100m doesn't get this fight closer to happening though.
I think you'd be surprised how much interest there is from casuals about this fight.
You're forcing my hand here and I can't resist: I think YOU'D be surprised.
Yup.
I, as a fan of fight sports but mostly MMA, have zero interest in seeing this fight. $100m or $10m or $10 I wouldnt pay money to watch it or support it in any way.
I hope they both make bank, cos why not, but I will lose respect for the sportsmen that is Conor. Businessman and sportsman are different.
I hope they both make bank, cos why not, but I will lose respect for the sportsmen that is Conor. Businessman and sportsman are different.
Thing with that loss, he was winning up to that point.... he gassed hard and lost. But until they he was lighting Nate's face up.
Sure, but I really think anybody who thinks this is a dangerous fight for Conor's image is overestimating the risk here. Gassed or not, Conor was bloodied and tapped by a guy on 11 days notice. If he can come back from that and still be on top, I don't see how there's any indication that a loss to the arguable GOAT in a different sport will damage his image in a big way. Canelo's image didn't even suffer when he lost to Mayweather and he's a boxer for God's sake. Conor's gonna be fine.
At this point, I'm not sure about that. The first one is known for being a disappointment. I do not think that Conor vs Floyd is a lock to be a smaller fight in terms of buyrate. I could be wrong, but when that first fight happened the second one lost a lot of selling potential. It'll still be huge, but I think if it out-sells Conor vs Floyd it isn't by much. People felt literally betrayed by the first one. Swindled. I don't necessarily agree, but there were people calling it "The Night Boxing Died". Conor vs Floyd is fresh, and it has gotten a lot more attention than the second Manny fight.
I obviously could be wrong, but that's how I currently see it.
No casuals really pay attention to the fight being short notice in my opinion. They just know what they see come fight night. Maybe they'll have heard it was short notice from the commentating but tbh I don't think they care that much.
A Floyd beat down is much more harmful for his image than his first bout with Nate ever could be. The way it'll happen.. it would be a highlight clip filled with him getting punched in the face and missing shots. Remember all the ronda rousey videos of her getting KO'd by holm/nunes or mcgregor getting beat and tapping out to Nate? This would garner 10x the attention any of those fights brought and videos of mcgregor getting his ass beat would hurt his image
Why? Where was this even Steven approach for Conor's opponents? He got to be the guy tweeting out beg me and telling guys to thank him for getting paid. Conor seems to need this fight far more than Floyd does.
Conor and his opponents all fight under the same promotion.. and the UFC is in charge of who gets paid what. this is a mega fight and way different.
The UFC negotiates with its fighters and come to terms, I wouldn't say they're in charge. I get it's different here but I think it's funny to expect this potential payday to be split 50/50.
Huh, I think the opposite. Conor is the LW champ, he can just go along, breaking records -- pack a stadium in Russia fighting Khabib, fill Croke Park fighting Aldo, etc. -- and command more money before each fight. Floyd is retired and is only staying relevant because there are no big stars in boxing right now.
Remember what happened to Aoki with this simular rule set...my gawd that knee
I agree with what your saying but to me that spells out Conor wanting this more. Financially Floyd's is decades ahead, if hes retired and has an incredible record and will go down as one of the best ever then why would he settle for anything less than what he's suggesting? Conor is still on his way up and much younger with lots to prove still. Iirc it was ZUFFA and Co (RR & CM)who started this whole Mayweather shit. Either way I'd be super surprised if this ever goes anywhere.
That was my response to someone saying conor would sub him round 2.
My theory is Conor knows that right now, Floyd is considered the best, most successful combat sports fighter, and so Conor's ultimate goal is to be bigger than him. And it's true, the best way to do that would be to beat Floyd in a fight. Another way to be like Floyd is to do the other things Conor has talked about, like owning part of the UFC, co-promoting with them, being on even-footing with them, like Floyd in boxing. But Conor also has an ego, so to prove that he is on the same level as Floyd, he might not take anything less than half. Taking less would be admitting that he is the lesser fighter, like admitting defeat before the bell rings.
Inoki vs Ali?