VID Hendricks was 26 lbs over on Tuesday

[Leigh]

Really, keeping weight down isn't THAT hard. Its not like you can't have steak or other good foods. Avoiding junk food, processed carbs and beer will make a huge difference.

Hendrix only needs to walk at 190 to make a pretty steady drop to welterweight. A 5'9 guy who blows up over 2 bills is eating a lot of crap consistently.

 

[Sweets]

Hey Johnny you're an endomorph that means good diet is essential.
Just cause you wanna eat it doesn't mean ya should.
Just cause all the other guys can eat it doesn't mean you can.

 

[Ted Williams' head]

Wow. He's really fucked himself over, because I wouldn't pick him to beat anyone in the top 10 at MW.

With all the problems he's had in the past and all the talk of him changing, it's amazing how he ran into the exact same problem.

 

[dacofty]

Man that's crazy how do you think he does at 185? I don't think he has anything for Weidman

i dont think he has anything for the current top 10 middle weights

 

[Pitbull9]

That's bullshit he better pay that man his money.

 

[lookoutawhale]

That's bullshit he better pay that man his money.

I think Dana will still give Woodley his money.

they usually do when one person messes it up for the other.

 

[Narcosynthesis]

Hendricks gets up to 20% body fat in between fights so his weight cut is brutal. The older he gets the harder the cut is going to get. Also, the new drug testing policy doesn't help either. Not saying he was on anything, no proof at all, but if he was using anabolic steroids to help with his cuts it's a lot riskier to do now.

Johny Hendricks has no discipline when it comes to his diet. People talk shit about Dolce but when Hendricks was working with him he always made weight. After Hendricks lost the title to Lawler he said he didn't need Dolce anymore. He claimed he had learned enough from him about diet to do it by himself. Well he made the weight against Matt Brown, which was surprising but he wasn't even close this time around and ended up in the hospital unable to take a shit.

 

[Ted Williams' head]

For sure. Should have stuck with Dolce, a guy like Hendricks obviously needs someone on his ass at all times about the diet.

It's a shame when you get these guys who don't want to embrace the discipline a professional athlete should have. So many times we hear guys missing weight, or making weight with a hellacious cut and having their performance suffer. It's ridiculous.

 

[Haulport]

Weight cutting should be banned COMPLETELY...

It is an easy process and if you change the weight classes everyone is mostly fighting the exact same dudes. If Johny can't diet to 195lbs. he SHOULDN'T be fighting anyone in the current WW division anyway.

Also, I don't think he would do as bad as everyone thinks at 185. He is an excellent wrestler with power and that would have him in the top 10 but he would struggle and probably lose against guys at the very top like Romero, Weidman, Jacare and Luke who have big reach advantages and top notch wrestling. Weidman has nearly the same reach as Gus (79 vs. 78 for Chris).

I actually think WEIDMAN has the best chance against Jon Jones...

 

[Wild]

a guy like Hendricks obviously needs someone on his ass at all times about the diet.

Which is really odd because the guy was an elite wrestler in college. You have to be extremely disciplined and tough minded to get to where he got in college. It just makes no sense that he does this in MMA.

 

[creepymeat]

Im just disappointed, i really wanted to see this fight and felt like Woodley had plenty of ways to win. Hendricks let all of the fans down after bitching about us and he should be ashamed of himself.

 

[Wild]

Im just disappointed, i really wanted to see this fight and felt like Woodley had plenty of ways to win. Hendricks let all of the fans down after bitching about us and he should be ashamed of himself.

Damn straight.

 

[Pitbull9]

Hendricks gets up to 20% body fat in between fights so his weight cut is brutal. The older he gets the harder the cut is going to get. Also, the new drug testing policy doesn't help either. Not saying he was on anything, no proof at all, but if he was using anabolic steroids to help with his cuts it's a lot riskier to do now.

Johny Hendricks has no discipline when it comes to his diet. People talk shit about Dolce but when Hendricks was working with him he always made weight. After Hendricks lost the title to Lawler he said he didn't need Dolce anymore. He claimed he had learned enough from him about diet to do it by himself. Well he made the weight against Matt Brown, which was surprising but he wasn't even close this time around and ended up in the hospital unable to take a shit.

Hendricks said after his last fight he would never get heavy again off season lol. He is so full of shit. He isn't a real athlete I don't care what he has done. Being a real athlete is staying in shape all year round working hard all year round and doing the right things.

 

[kneeblock]

It's weird to me how there's generally so much solidarity around fighters here, but then when they miss weight it's all "how unprofessional, do your job, FORCE him to move up."

There's obviously a serious structural problem with the weight cutting system in MMA. Comparing it to wrestling doesn't wash because there's a set season in wrestling and more weight classes so you stay in shape on season and can let it go or switch classes if you wrestle at all offseason or in tournaments.

There are not enough weight classes in MMA and considering the number of fights (not to mention the unpredictability of when they'll be offered) the average athlete gets per year, there are no incentives to staying on or near weight and altering your whole lifestyle. There are more classes with less gaps in every other combat sport. This structure is just a legacy artifact from when the sport was considerably smaller.

There is something to be said for showing up at the weight you're contracted for. People have done if successfully for several years now, but that was in an environment where PEDs, IV usage and other methods were given less scrutiny which meant people could do whatever it took. If they're now going to disallow those methods and they're not going to do weight class reform AND they're going to restrict sponsorship opportunities, the promoters are going to have to do something that incentivizes being miserable all year round besides promises of title shots and paydays that don't materialize.

 

[Pitbull9]

It's weird to me how there's generally so much solidarity around fighters here, but then when they miss weight it's all "how unprofessional, do your job, FORCE him to move up."

There's obviously a serious structural problem with the weight cutting system in MMA. Comparing it to wrestling doesn't wash because there's a set season in wrestling and more weight classes so you stay in shape on season and can let it go or switch classes if you wrestle at all offseason or in tournaments.

There are not enough weight classes in MMA and considering the number of fights (not to mention the unpredictability of when they'll be offered) the average athlete gets per year, there are no incentives to staying on or near weight and altering your whole lifestyle. There are more classes with less gaps in every other combat sport. This structure is just a legacy artifact from when the sport was considerably smaller.

There is something to be said for showing up at the weight you're contracted for. People have done if successfully for several years now, but that was in an environment where PEDs, IV usage and other methods were given less scrutiny which meant people could do whatever it took. If they're now going to disallow those methods and they're not going to do weight class reform AND they're going to restrict sponsorship opportunities, the promoters are going to have to do something that incentivizes being miserable all year round besides promises of title shots and paydays that don't materialize.

The biggest problem with weight cutting are the people cutting weight. Like Leigh said staying close to fight or contest shape isn't that hard. You can still have fun foods but you still need to monitor everything. Shit body builders during contest prep will give themselves a cheat meal here and there of pizza to fill up and still come in peeled come contest time. JH isn't doing the right things when he isn't in camp and that is the whole problem. cutting weight is dangerous when you balloon up to a unhealthy weight and try to crash down to a fight weight you are not generally made for anyway. JH should be around 190 not 230 like he usually gets. That shit is pathetic and I have no sympathy for him.

 

[kneeblock]

The biggest problem with weight cutting are the people cutting weight. Like Leigh said staying close to fight or contest shape isn't that hard. You can still have fun foods but you still need to monitor everything. Shit body builders during contest prep will give themselves a cheat meal here and there of pizza to fill up and still come in peeled come contest time. JH isn't doing the right things when he isn't in camp and that is the whole problem. cutting weight is dangerous when you balloon up to a unhealthy weight and try to crash down to a fight weight you are not generally made for anyway. JH should be around 190 not 230 like he usually gets. That shit is pathetic and I have no sympathy for him.

I completely agree with you, but what I'm saying is If you want athletes to behave like all year round pros, pay them like all year round pros.

 

[ThatOneDude]

Hendricks gets up to 20% body fat in between fights so his weight cut is brutal. The older he gets the harder the cut is going to get. Also, the new drug testing policy doesn't help either. Not saying he was on anything, no proof at all, but if he was using anabolic steroids to help with his cuts it's a lot riskier to do now.

Johny Hendricks has no discipline when it comes to his diet. People talk shit about Dolce but when Hendricks was working with him he always made weight. After Hendricks lost the title to Lawler he said he didn't need Dolce anymore. He claimed he had learned enough from him about diet to do it by himself. Well he made the weight against Matt Brown, which was surprising but he wasn't even close this time around and ended up in the hospital unable to take a shit.

We get it, Ronda cuts weight the best

 

[BeardOfKnowledge]

Um, guys. He's missed weight exactly once, yesterday. The other time he was close to missing having to make weight on a second attempt was under Dolce's watch. His last fight, where he had his easiest cut, Dolce was out of the picture. He came in looking thick, solid, tight and made 170 with no issues and had no issues man raping Matt Brown for the duration of their fight. Is it hugely unprofessional to miss weight? Of course it is. Has anyone else been bounced up a division for missing weight once? Not that I can think of, feel free to correct me though. This is such a big deal solely because Dana lost his co-main and is pissed about it, shocking.

Oh, and please stop talking about fighters needing nutritionists. These fighters need dietitians. There's a huge difference between the two.