Cinema Icarus (Netflix Russian doping doc)

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Robbie Hart

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Holy shit!!!!
Does it not all make one think "why must we go to these great lengths?"

I remember going up against this guy from a rival school when I was younger in wrestling and he absolutely manhandled me, basically made me look 100% amateurish, foolish and just plain incapable of wrestling and I thought "that can't be right, no one has ever done that to me and I wasn't warned about this and there was no coaches report/coaching/warning about this or on this freak of nature?"

I'm just going to plead ignorance to all of it
 

Robbie Hart

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My head wasn't all there bc I was working on finishing something before legendary shoe "big brother came on cbs after 60 minutes," but tje last segment of Sundays episode was saying how there are/have been hidden motors in bikes fr decades...give them a little boost for about 20 munutes
Cheaters all the way through and through
 
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kaladin stormblessed

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Cheaters all the through and through
It's reallly upsetting tbh. Like lance. I looked to him so much. I have on a yellow lance wristband thing right now. Have worn them for over a decade probably

But wtf. I can't even stand people grabbing shirts, diving in soccer and shit like that. Let alone drugs or motors. Wtf. Where the hell are peoples' honor?

It pisses me off
 

KWingJitsu

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Does it not all make one think "why must we go to these great lengths?"

I remember going up against this guy from a rival school when I was younger in wrestling and he absolutely manhandled me, basically made me look 100% amateurish, foolish and just plain incapable of wrestling and I thought "that can't be right, no one has ever done that to me and I wasn't warned about this and there was no coaches report/coaching/warning about this or on this freak of nature?"

I'm just going to plead ignorance to all of it
My head wasn't all there bc I was working on finishing something before legendary shoe "big brother came on cbs after 60 minutes," but tje last segment of Sundays episode was saying how there are/have been hidden motors in bikes fr decades...give them a little boost for about 20 munutes
Stunning to me. Like the Frech dude said - 'man will always find a way to cheat'.
It's crazy. I used to occasionally watch parts of the Tour De France and I clearly remember thinking... "Hey! How the fuck is that guy effortlessly speeding past those other guys who are clearly struggling?" Especially going uphill? It happens so often you can't not notice it.
LOL. That video in the clip shows an example. Looking back now, how could it have been anything but a fucking motorized bike?
 

Robbie Hart

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What a great documentary.......putin given 1,666 documents and just denies everything.......
 

benjo0101

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What a great documentary.......putin given 1,666 documents and just denies everything.......
How lucky was the guy to stumble into his Russian mate.

I loved the slander campaign they ran as soon as they thought he might screw them
 

Robbie Hart

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How lucky was the guy to stumble into his Russian mate.

I loved the slander campaign they ran as soon as they thought he might screw them
Like a fucking movie.....I love how putin promoted the head of sport or whatever he was to deputy prime minister
 

benjo0101

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Like a fucking movie.....I love how putin promoted the head of sport or whatever he was to deputy prime minister
Lol. Oh yes I forgot about that!!

Well done for murdering that annoying guy who could uncover everything. Promotion
 

Robbie Hart

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Lol. Oh yes I forgot about that!!

Well done for murdering that annoying guy who could uncover everything. Promotion
Even the one us attorney said "ah, 2 people connected to the Russian doping program are already dead under circumstances that seem highly suspect and one thing of the first things I learned from authorities when I came onto the case was that Russian govt has the resources and the will"
 

benjo0101

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Even the one us attorney said "ah, 2 people connected to the Russian doping program are already dead under circumstances that seem highly suspect and one thing of the first things I learned from authorities when I came onto the case was that Russian govt has the resources and the will"
All for a bit of snowboarding



I know it isn't for that really but essentially it was
 

benjo0101

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Yeah......fucking diabolical.....ironically, one of their best snowboarders was American.....
I'm still in disbelief at the denial. But more in disbelief at the IOC for not banning them and individual sports allowing it.

So corrupt and so blatant it's unreal
 

Robbie Hart

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I'm still in disbelief at the denial. But more in disbelief at the IOC for not banning them and individual sports allowing it.

So corrupt and so blatant it's unreal
Agree......but that natural gas and oil money buys not only a waiver of an Olympic ban at the last minute but a World Cup!

This is the snowboarder that even my wife said "he's Russian, vic wild is a Russian name?
Vic Wild - Wikipedia
 

lueVelvet

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Now that it’s won an Oscar and out on Netflix I figure bumping this thread is relevant.

Great documentary. I love the ones that start off with one story and gets sidetracked on a much more interesting story. Much like Smashing Machine and Prescription Thugs.

Icarus is of course a few levels above those two in impact and wow factor. I don’t know how anyone can be sympathetic to the Russian government, especially in sports. I watched another piece on Russian hackers and one of the dudes they interviewed said that Russian engineers are taught the science etc but are never taught ethics. This has allowed the government to essentially pump out unethical doctors, computer scientists etc etc.

So weird...
 

Robbie Hart

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Feb 13, 2015
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Now that it’s won an Oscar and out on Netflix I figure bumping this thread is relevant.

Great documentary. I love the ones that start off with one story and gets sidetracked on a much more interesting story. Much like Smashing Machine and Prescription Thugs.

Icarus is of course a few levels above those two in impact and wow factor. I don’t know how anyone can be sympathetic to the Russian government, especially in sports. I watched another piece on Russian hackers and one of the dudes they interviewed said that Russian engineers are taught the science etc but are never taught ethics. This has allowed the government to essentially pump out unethical doctors, computer scientists etc etc.

So weird...
It is a must see for everyone
 

Brigsy

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If you are into sport/cycling and doping have a read of David Millar's book. Amazing story of indoctrination and the reality of pro sport.