To beat Brooks....yes I do.You think Michael Jackson's got what it takes yeah?
I can't say we've seen enough of either of them to make a solid statement on it. Punk will be showing up with twice the training he went into the 1st with... & I don't know what Mike's been doing, but he ain't been fighting. Probably holding down a 40 hour/wk job & training on the side.
I could be wrong about his training... but I find it hard to believe there's that much certainty toward Punk losing ya know.
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You may be right, no one knows for sure but I'm going on the assumption Jackson has been training for a while and Brooks is older and looked absolutely horrible in his only fight, even improving significantly he would still be a very bad fighter IMO.
All that training went out the window with that double leg. Looked like an audience member from there on out. It's what playing in the NBA would look like after 2 years of training.it's cool that he's dedicated so much to training, and it's always inspiring to see people go after mid-life career changes full-on, but... do we really need to see this again?
or if, say, Robert Redford decided he wanted to give baseball a shot for real after starring in The Natural. It's not so far-fetched - after all, he probably played in HS and got some instruction from big-leaguers for the movie and took some BP with big league teams here and there as a celebrity. George Steinbrenner sees dollar signs and says he'll be in the opening lineup for the Yankees in 1984 (or whatever year that was), skipping the minors altogether.
Redford turns down all acting roles for the next two years, trains diligently, gets in shape, has the finest hitting and fielding instruction available. He appears at media events and fundraisers in his Yankees gear and this is all covered breathlessly by the press. There are whispers that he's not showing much progress in training, but they go forward with it anyway.
On opening day he goes 0 for 5 with 5 Ks and 4 errors in the field... but he fouls a couple off in his 3rd at-bat and gets deep into the count (about equivalent to fighting off a RNC from rear mount for a minute or two). The Yankees lose 12-3 and, while it wasn't all Redford's fault, he certainly didn't help things. Would they keep throwing him out there after the novelty wears off?
Yeah, the business model and competitive purpose of a team sport is totally different, but the above sounds not so far off from UFC/Punk.
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What's this all about? Stats show that Brooks has zeros across the board with the exception of landing 6/8 strikes which were from his back.
I'm all for him making the most of his opportunity but let's not rewrite how it went down.
Maybe including his WWE punches?What's this all about? Stats show that Brooks has zeros across the board with the exception of landing 6/8 strikes which were from his back.
I'm all for him making the most of his opportunity but let's not rewrite how it went down.
Again, I am saying to you and pretty much everyone else on this forum that isn't a pro/ammy fighter.. He did better than you would have.What's this all about? Stats show that Brooks has zeros across the board with the exception of landing 6/8 strikes which were from his back.
I'm all for him making the most of his opportunity but let's not rewrite how it went down.
No. He did exactly what anyone would done. Nothing. And get owned. He showed zero training.
Wrong. Go back and rewatch it. Luckily for me, I have someone who's trained people and was Ranked number 1 in the world for many years standing behind me. He's trained, but going against a legit brown belt, he was completely outclassed but showed that he trained. He's showing skills learned, but isn't able to chain them together fast enough to truly be effective in there. It's really easy to say he got wrecked, he got destroyed etc... but that was expected going against Gall.
Had he been in there with zero training(like most of this and many of the other forums), he'd have been finished quicker by the skilled Mickey Gall. I doubt many of you would have made weight, let alone gotten to the cage lol. It is what it is though as we'll never see that happen.
Based on what? What moments in that fight made you think "heeeey he's got some fight in him!"
Agreed.
What skills did he show? What did he do right? and where did he go wrong? It all went so fast.
That is why we're not in there fighting Micky Gall, underestimating what killers these guys are. But for the right amount of cash, why the heck not. Not blaming the guy for making some dough on the side. I would do the same thing.
Zero fucking moments. He got handled and put on the floor, never had a chance to show off any type of skill. He fought as someone oiff the street would fight off an attacker. It's like when they have an audience member throwing a free throw in basketball.
That's how I remember it too but the "gotta give him props/respect" thing is getting old. Yes what he did at his age and experience and not needing the paycheck is cool but let's just be honest, he got beat up in brutal fashion as expected. Know who else would get their ass kicked in there? My wife, doesn't mean I'd hate her or point the finger afterwards. I'd tell her she got shit kicked then make sweet love to her.
And I get it, a lot of WWE guys wanting to support him. But he ain't no Brock lol.
I wish Kurt Angle had an opportunity.
Things he did wrong: Rushed in and didn't space himself well. He gave up the puncher's chance when he did that. We knew mickey was good on the ground, but no one knew just how good. Mickey gave him no space. Best thing he could have done was wall walk or closed guard.
Things he did right: Pulled guard quickly. Fought hands while mickey was on his back. Constantly moving, looking for escapes and negating some of the damage.
White belt vs Brown belt grappling is what we saw. Tara's saying "It wasn't coming to him fast enough. He just wasn't as skilled in putting the moves together as Mickey, there were sweeps and things he could have done but they are for more advanced grapplers. He just wasn't there."
With that little amount of training versus a legit brown belt you look like an unskilled fighter. That is what I am saying. Nothing against the guy personally, just how it went down to me.
Oh it's true.