MayMac Punch Stats - BEFORE Conor Gassed

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drtheglob

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Floyd came out and thought he could get to work on Conor quickly but got hit a few times and realised he would have to drag the fight out.

He had nothing for Conor when they were fresh. Fact.

If Floyd is that much better of a boxer then why did he have to give away rounds against a guy making his debut?
EXACTLY! To a lot of observers, Floyd lost as many as 4 or 5 rounds. If Conor had caught a second wind (which he's shown to do before), he could have potentially won the 2 or 3 of the final rounds and made it a draw or better. If you're Floyd why risk that?! It doesn't make sense that Floyd would be thinking in these terms.
 

dacofty

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There's nothing smug about calling a spade a spade. The complete compubox numbers do tell a pretty compelling story, just not one that indicates Conor did very well. According to the scoring of the contest, Conor undeniably won at least 3 rounds, but even at an incredibly low output in those rounds, Floyd still managed to land as much or more except in round 1 which he took off completely. If it was indeed a cardio issue and not damage accumulation that did Conor in, the high miss rate counts as a much more significant stat than the power shots.

Conor deserves credit for trying and lasting, but managing a close fight is an overstatement.
Unless you can point out OFFICIAL judges cards showing Conor won 3 rounds i think this is a pipe dream. Not to mention now they say Conor suffered mild brain trauma... this from pillow hands floyd
 

regular john

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The last two rounds are excluded because Conor gassed in those rounds. It's not like I'm saying Conor should have won or something, I'm just putting the fight in another perspective.

Also, you're acting smugly, but I don't see how you've poked holes in any of my data! You say that two of the rounds were so close that Conor's lead is negligible. That might be a good argument if I were suggesting that Conor kicked ass, but all I'm saying is that it was CLOSE, not that Conor had a huge lead in some rounds.

Furthermore, I understand that CompuBox numbers don't tell the whole story, but that doesn't mean they are meaningless. These numbers coincide with the observation by many that Conor won 3 or 4 of the rounds.
respectfully, I don't see any set of data or empirical observation that leads to the conclusion that Conor won four rounds. maybe three, with a lot of good will, but from round four on he was owned (not that there's anything wrong with it)
 

regular john

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In a real fight with 4 oz. gloves
lol

Despite the fact that he won handily and took no damage in the process he looked rusty in there, lay off and age catching up to him
I don't think that's a fair assessment. Floyd never fought like that so how can we know if he looked "rusty". if he came out in his crab shelf style and couldn't slip punches then that would be an indication but he had a completely unusual style that worked perfectly.
 
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regular john

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Floyd came out and thought he could get to work on Conor quickly but got hit a few times and realised he would have to drag the fight out.

He had nothing for Conor when they were fresh. Fact.

If Floyd is that much better of a boxer then why did he have to give away rounds against a guy making his debut?
please be more subtle with your trolling mate.
 

Suicidalforlife

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lol



I don't think that's a fair assessment. Floyd never fought like that so how can we know if he looked "rusty". if he came out in his crab shelf style and couldn't slip punches then that would be an indication but he had a completely unusual style that worked perfectly.
He was never going to fight Philly shell in this fight, it doesn't work as well vs a south paw.

He walked Conor down in the end and didn't have to move much to do it, I'm talking about him missing shots he should have landed and would have a few years ago.

Also the style he employed suits his slower foot work, in the Berto fight it was plain to see his legs and feet had slowed.

There is a reason he fought Mc Gregor and specifically the way he did, he knew at his age and with his abilities not what they once were he could get away with it.

He had been saying as much in the run up to the fight and in the post fight interviews.
 

La Paix

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Conor did ok when looking at cherry picked stats from his best rounds while completely ignoring the last few rounds and assuming him gassing was 100% due to muscle fatigue and not accumulated damage.

 

regular john

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He was never going to fight Philly shell in this fight, it doesn't work as well vs a south paw.

He walked Conor down in the end and didn't have to move much to do it, I'm talking about him missing shots he should have landed and would have a few years ago.

Also the style he employed suits his slower foot work, in the Berto fight it was plain to see his legs and feet had slowed.

There is a reason he fought Mc Gregor and specifically the way he did, he knew at his age and with his abilities not what they once were he could get away with it.

He had been saying as much in the run up to the fight and in the post fight interviews.
I'm not disputing whether he did slow down or not, but that you can't draw this conclusion based on maymac circus fight.

I didn't watch the Berto fight - Floyd's fights were getting more boring each time towards the end of his career - so I'm not sure. you do have a valid point that goes beyond maymac though.
 

Suicidalforlife

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I'm not disputing whether he did slow down or not, but that you can't draw this conclusion based on maymac circus fight.

I didn't watch the Berto fight - Floyd's fights were getting more boring each time towards the end of his career - so I'm not sure. you do have a valid point that goes beyond maymac though.
True, you can't really, it was a freak fight.

He got more cautious in his old age, with his match ups and his fighting style.

I haven't followed his whole career very closely but towards the end the differences are clear enough.

Suppose my point is in general the fight isn't one you want to be trying to get a moral victory from, or make excuses for.

Annoys me seeing Conor do that, he has to rebuild his confidence, to an extent, fair enough.

I just wish he wouldn't try and sell the loss as something it wasn't.

I suppose it's to be expected, spin is more important than the sales pitch when it blows up in your face.