General OFFICIAL: CANT CUCK THE TUCK THREAD

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Greenbean

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Spicy interview with Cruz. Not really in the camp that Tucker "destroys" him.

After just finishing the entire interview, Ted Cruz hasn't lost or gained any points in my mind. Tucker on the other hand was annoying. Constantly putting words in Cruz's mouth, and positioning himself to never be challenged because he won't take a firm stance on anything.

Also the victimhood of being called names. Oh the horror. The anti-Semite, I guess, allegation, by Cruz was weird because it was the topic that was being discussed and he was asking questions about it. That's a fair call out to Cruz. Like that's appropriate to ask questions and Cruz didn't think so.

The rest of the name-calling, such as isolationist, is fair. Tucker thinks we shouldn't be involved in anything but doesn't have any solutions. Just "oh that was a failure, that was dumb to do". Easy to say. Cruz point about weakening our enemies benefits America is easy to grasp. Tucker didn't seem to think so. It was a messy interview.
 

okiebug

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Spicy interview with Cruz. Not really in the camp that Tucker "destroys" him.

After just finishing the entire interview, Ted Cruz hasn't lost or gained any points in my mind. Tucker on the other hand was annoying. Constantly putting words in Cruz's mouth, and positioning himself to never be challenged because he won't take a firm stance on anything.

Also the victimhood of being called names. Oh the horror. The anti-Semite, I guess, allegation, by Cruz was weird because it was the topic that was being discussed and he was asking questions about it. That's a fair call out to Cruz. Like that's appropriate to ask questions and Cruz didn't think so.

The rest of the name-calling, such as isolationist, is fair. Tucker thinks we shouldn't be involved in anything but doesn't have any solutions. Just "oh that was a failure, that was dumb to do". Easy to say. Cruz point about weakening our enemies benefits America is easy to grasp. Tucker didn't seem to think so. It was a messy interview.
Enjoy your war. Mazel tov!
 

IschKabibble

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He's saving journalism one interview at a time. Crazy to think how far the 9/11 "truth movement" has come over the years. Some people go insane if you ask questions about what happened that day, like you're challenging their entire world view.


View: https://youtu.be/hMk0orYKXQk
 

Greenbean

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You know... I've noticed this for a long time now and I'm surprised Tucker just came to the realization. Partially why you won't hear me criticize Israel on here. Admittedly I know nothing. But I look around at the current state of the west and I ask myself who does this benefit? It benefits the East and the ones who are not doing this. I really feel like any negative energy towards whoever, really needs to be directed at China and Russia.
 

okiebug

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You know... I've noticed this for a long time now and I'm surprised Tucker just came to the realization. Partially why you won't hear me criticize Israel on here. Admittedly I know nothing. But I look around at the current state of the west and I ask myself who does this benefit? It benefits the East and the ones who are not doing this. I really feel like any negative energy towards whoever, really needs to be directed at China and Russia.

Russia and China both want to be left alone and compete in the world economically. Western Europe is no longer capable of doing so because they've allowed a pilfering of their coffers by thier own elites at the expense of thier working middle class. The US and Canada are essentially headed the same way. Why would you blame Russia and China for that?
 

MountainMedic

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Russia and China both want to be left alone and compete in the world economically. Western Europe is no longer capable of doing so because they've allowed a pilfering of their coffers by thier own elites at the expense of thier working middle class. The US and Canada are essentially headed the same way. Why would you blame Russia and China for that?
That's a very optimistic view of China, the country that openly stated their goal is to destroy America.
 

O’Browneye

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To be fair, the Chinamen had some puppeteering going on behind the scenes back in the day and not really all that long after a prolonged bit of deliberate chaos was unleashed.




And since they're now demanding American B-2 bombers while trying to promote the transfer like it's is some kind of "bipartisan" effort:


We should probably stand by for the Chinese to roll out their very own B-2 knockoff soon enough:

 

Greenbean

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Russia and China both want to be left alone and compete in the world economically.
Those poor communists! Always wanting to be left alone.


Western Europe is no longer capable of doing so because they've allowed a pilfering of their coffers by thier own elites at the expense of thier working middle class. The US and Canada are essentially headed the same way. Why would you blame Russia and China for that?
Because money has no nationality. I blame Russia and China because they seemed to have side stepped this onslaught of foreigners and nobody is asking why? How convenient. Again, the East and West, at this point is not compatible. Let's view it through the lens of competition instead of what I believe is going on (soft power owned by the east and irregular warfare). If it's a competition to see who's economic model is superior, communism vs capitalism, then why wouldn't they want us to bankrupt ourselves with services supporting foreigners. It's in their best interest. I couldn't tell you what's in Israel's interest, but if they're our greatest ally (honestly I don't know why) then you want a strong United States backing you against Iran or whoever. It just makes more sense to me that Russia and China have more to gain be sabotaging our society than Israel.
 

okiebug

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Those poor communists! Always wanting to be left alone.

I hate to tell you this, but the cold war is over. List the countries where China has militarily intervened versus the US. I'm not defending them, but come on. China couldn't come close to effectively sabotaging the west better than our own elites. We have no one to blame but ourselves.
 

MountainMedic

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I hate to tell you this, but the cold war is over. List the countries where China has militarily intervened versus the US. I'm not defending them, but come on. China couldn't come close to effectively sabotaging the west better than our own elites. We have no one to blame but ourselves.
They wage a long term war of economic and cultural destruction across the globe.
 

okiebug

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That's a very optimistic view of China, the country that openly stated their goal is to destroy America.
Microsoft wanted to destroy apple and Ford wanted to destroy GM. It made cars and computers more affordable. When apple was losing it didn't arm itself and invade IBM. It just got better and produced more things people wanted. War is not the solution to everything.
 

okiebug

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They wage a long term war of economic and cultural destruction across the globe.
And go ahead and give me the side by side lists if countries china has destroyed over the past 25 years versus the US. Just give me a worse example than Lybia. Or just use the eye roll emote if you don't have an argument.
 

Greenbean

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And go ahead and give me the side by side lists if countries china has destroyed over the past 25 years versus the US. Just give me a worse example than Lybia. Or just use the eye roll emote if you don't have an argument.
This is a different argument entirely. It was never about who's intervened militarily more between USA and China. The question, asked by me, was who benefits from America destroying itself. Because when you look at what certain politicians have allowed, and the brainwashed citizens that support and vote for it, it appears as though it is not organic and I'd like to know who's payroll the politicians are really on. Take this with a massive grain of salt because of the source... But Mike pompeo said years ago that they have a list of politicians that are being bought off by china. If you do happen to believe this, then the question is why and what is their goal and how do they get return on their investment.
 

Greenbean

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This is a different argument entirely. It was never about who's intervened militarily more between USA and China. The question, asked by me, was who benefits from America destroying itself. Because when you look at what certain politicians have allowed, and the brainwashed citizens that support and vote for it, it appears as though it is not organic and I'd like to know who's payroll the politicians are really on. Take this with a massive grain of salt because of the source... But Mike pompeo said years ago that they have a list of politicians that are being bought off by china. If you do happen to believe this, then the question is why and what is their goal and how do they get return on their investment.
I'll also add that Russia, has many "red lines" that we've crossed. If you go back to before the recent Israel and Iran conflict, every other week the West was crossing one of Putin's red lines. Do you really think he's saving some pearl harbor style attack on the u.s.? We are in a new era of warfare and it's digital and psychological. Our universities are producing woke retards. Again, that's not organic. That is a strategic piece of this and I don't blame Israel for that.
 

IschKabibble

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I'm so proud of Tucker for sitting still through the entire interview. Our boy is maturing right before our eyes.