Robert Whittaker has pulled out of UFC 221

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regular john

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just the fact they would replace the fight with another good one right away, like pride used to do was the example. everyones so concerened about the title/intrem or whatever, but we still get another MW top 5 fight we havent seen. just being positivie abouit it.
I've only watched Whitaker once and Gay Jesus Romero is one of my favorite mma fighters so IMHO the main event actually got better. But I find it hard to be positive about anything ufc/mma nowadays. Pride would have stacked shows once a month; ufc has watered down shows every week - which I always liked. But with the ridiculous ammounts of time that mma fighters take between fights and the frequency that they injury themselves in training you end up with actual PPV cards filled with nobodies.
 
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I've only watched Whitaker once and Gay Jesus Romero is one of my favorite mma fighters so IMHO the main event actually got better. But I find it hard to be positive about anything ufc/mma nowadays. Pride would have stacked shows once a month; ufc has watered down shows every week - which I always liked. But with the ridiculous ammounts of time that mma fighters take between fights and the frequency that they injury themselves in training you end up with actual PPV cards filled with nobodies.
Now this is the weird cycle we are in as MMA fans/UFC zombies. On one side, we have the argument that "WME/IMG don't expect me to pay for this shit, a card full of nobodies".... The other "UFC needs to do a better job building up their fighters so that you don't get hijacked by people like Conor or (at the time) Ronda, who take extended leaves".

We want them to promote their fighters better, giving them a true shot at financial stability, however we don't want them selling us a card filled with up and comers and acting like it's all their A list fighters.
 

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I've only watched Whitaker once and Gay Jesus Romero is one of my favorite mma fighters so IMHO the main event actually got better. But I find it hard to be positive about anything ufc/mma nowadays. Pride would have stacked shows once a month; ufc has watered down shows every week - which I always liked. But with the ridiculous ammounts of time that mma fighters take between fights and the frequency that they injury themselves in training you end up with actual PPV cards filled with nobodies.
agree, but a major prob is not many names left anymore. fertetta'sid the math, the knew all the big stars and many recognizable names were just about done. so the the only options are build more stars with free shows or feeder league. and cut the amount of shows they have now so they can stack em with the top 10 fighters avaialable and any big names that are left.
 

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Yoel vs. Rockhold is still a damn good headliner. I'm just hoping it doesn't lead to a Romero victory and a Whittaker/Yoel rematch. I do want to see Bobby Knuckles vs. Luke at some point.

No offense, Mr. Romero!


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Agreed, but I want Romero to beat Rockhold, but I don't want a Romero/Whittaker rematch yet and I want to see Rockhold/Whittaker, but I don't want Rockhold to beat Romero............it's a vicious fucking circle
 

ShakaSway

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Now this is the weird cycle we are in as MMA fans/UFC zombies. On one side, we have the argument that "WME/IMG don't expect me to pay for this shit, a card full of nobodies".... The other "UFC needs to do a better job building up their fighters so that you don't get hijacked by people like Conor or (at the time) Ronda, who take extended leaves".

We want them to promote their fighters better, giving them a true shot at financial stability, however we don't want them selling us a card filled with up and comers and acting like it's all their A list fighters.
Its interesting all of that. Because most the time names are made by competing against other names and putting on one hell of a performance or winning. Hoi Choi had his name elevated with the Swanson fight, Korean Zombie and Garcia with theres. A ton of casuals got their exposure to Nate Diaz through his McGregor feud. Gus got his stock elevated greatly through the Jones and Cormier fights. Or at least to my knowledge.

Meek got some exposure through his win over Palhares even.

Then you have instances like McGregor, Ronda who they do back and do have outstanding performances. Which they choose mostly on charisma or mystique.

The card of nobodies usually will lead to one of them to fight someone of name value to get more on theirs, but it is lackluster at the time. I’m more ranting, throwing ideas at the wall at what makes a named fighter.
 

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Did George vacated MW title yet? Cuz wasn’t Whittaker the interim champ? And now they’re going to have a interim title for the interim belt?
 

Lukewarm Carl

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Did George vacated MW title yet? Cuz wasn’t Whittaker the interim champ? And now they’re going to have a interim title for the interim belt?
They stripped him a while back and promoted Bobby's to being the legit title. Kind of what they did with Aldo/Conor after the Aldo/Edgar rematch.
 

MovinOn

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They stripped him a while back and promoted Bobby's to being the legit title. Kind of what they did with Aldo/Conor after the Aldo/Edgar rematch.
Just to clarify, GSP voluntarily relinquished the MW title because he had no intention of defending it. No "stripping" took place -- other than possibly by aliens with probes years ago, but that's another story...

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Lukewarm Carl

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Just to clarify, GSP voluntarily relinquished the MW title because he had no intention of defending it. No "stripping" took place -- other than possibly by aliens with probes years ago, but that's another story...

;)
The conversation probably went something like this:

"There's no way in hell that I'm staying at 185 and fighting Bobby Knuckles, Gay Jesus, and Cockhold."
"I fucking knew it. Give me that damn belt back then, ya bastard. Here's your check for millions. Thanks again for coming back. That was a strong number to put up at the end of the year. But I fucking knew it."
"Ha Ha! I got you! Wanna go get some free range poutine?"
 
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Rockhold might beat Romero, but I don't see a smashing coming
Agreed, no one is "walking through" Romero. He went toe to toe with Bobby Knuckles and Jacare, he's a beast. Rockhold got hit by Weidman (yeah he won, but he got hit), and obviously Bisping dropped him... Point is he can get hit, and Romero is the last guy you want to get hit by.
 
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Agreed, no one is "walking through" Romero. He went toe to toe with Bobby Knuckles and Jacare, he's a beast. Rockhold got hit by Weidman (yeah he won, but he got hit), and obviously Bisping dropped him... Point is he can get hit, and Romero is the last guy you want to get hit by.
Whittaker would have finished him if not for the bum knee that gave out in the 1st round (partial credit to Romero on that one, but the fact remains)