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Hauler

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Taking a break from deck-building and enjoying a hand-rolled cigar I got at an event last week.

Made the pic black and white to reflect the correct amount of manhood.

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IMMAjunkie1984

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Taking a break from deck-building and enjoying a hand-rolled cigar I got at an event last week.

Made the pic black and white to reflect the correct amount of manhood.

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Hopefully you had one of those deck "wrecker bars". Here's a deck I helped a buddy out with, well, took over after he spent a 2 months trying to figure it out 😂. Thing is massive and the tear off sucked, even with the wrecker bar. I swear, they used anything from 1 1/2" screws to 3 1/2 galvanized nails on the previous build. 1334112202242244690.jpeg
 

Hauler

Been fallin so long it's like gravitys gone
Feb 3, 2016
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Hopefully you had one of those deck "wrecker bars". Here's a deck I helped a buddy out with, well, took over after he spent a 2 months trying to figure it out 😂. Thing is massive and the tear off sucked, even with the wrecker bar. I swear, they used anything from 1 1/2" screws to 3 1/2 galvanized nails on the previous build. View attachment 153939
Nicely done, bruh.
No - unfortunately I used the "back breaker" system. Two claw hammers and brute strength.
Had the same issue though - it was an old deck so over the years they put 3" deck screws to help hold down any boards that popped up. Definitely going to hit a proper cigar shop and enjoy a nice smoke when this project is finally done.
 

IMMAjunkie1984

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Unfortunately, I've been there before removing decking the same way. I found the deck wrecker bar years ago, when I was redoing 8 decks on an 8unit. First 3 decks took a day each to demo and clean up the screws. It was killing me so I got the wrecker and ended up demoing the reming decks in an hour each. Is the new deck going to composite or traditional?
 

Hauler

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Feb 3, 2016
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Unfortunately, I've been there before removing decking the same way. I found the deck wrecker bar years ago, when I was redoing 8 decks on an 8unit. First 3 decks took a day each to demo and clean up the screws. It was killing me so I got the wrecker and ended up demoing the reming decks in an hour each. Is the new deck going to composite or traditional?
Nice. The right tools for the job make all the difference.

Going to composite.
All I have left is a 14x14 section, the skirt boards, the stairs and the rail. Haha.

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Hauler

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Great work there. I wish that my buddy had went composite and aluminum railing, but the pricing was insane
Thanks. It is insane. Like 4x the $ of wood.

But I only intend to do this once. My last deck was wood - and the maintenance on that was a bear. And this deck Is twice as big. Figured I'd bite the bullet now and not have to worry about it again for a long ass time.
 
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IMMAjunkie1984

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Thanks. It is insane. Like 4x the $ of wood.

But I only intend to do this once. My last deck was wood - and the maintenance on that was a bear. And this deck Is twice as big. Figured I'd bite the bullet now and not have to worry about it again for a ling ass time.
100% the right choice.
 

Hauler

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No love for redwood? Doesn't seem to breakdown/rot like other wood or even the greenie synthetics they sell here in CA
Redwood is beautiful.
My guess is the price point falls between treated pine and composite.

And while it is very rot resistant, it does still need maintenance.
 

rmenergy

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Never worked with it, so I can't comment on it. Here, it's either green shit or composite. I think I've done 1 cedar deck,
Redwood was all over the coast when I lived there. Slightly inland as well since severe sun broke down the synthetic decks (>110 in summer for weeks on end at times). I've heard outside of CA the type of synthetic materials are better but even 5-10yrs ago out here the synthetic stuff didn't last in the sun & was still several times more expensive than redwood.

When my family still had the water pump company we'd service a few old wells. Some of these were from the early 1900's & the pumps were still sitting on the same redwood 10x10 beams. That old redwood lasts a really long time in severe conditions. Probably much longer than the new stuff
 

rmenergy

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Redwood is beautiful.
My guess is the price point falls between treated pine and composite.

And while it is very rot resistant, it does still need maintenance.
Yeah, my deck is redwood. Every other year it gets stripped & refinished.
 

Hauler

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Never worked with it
Redwood is awesome to work with.
lightweight. machines very easily. Although it is a softer wood - so it will dent easier than treated pine.

I'd say it's pretty similar to cedar - although it machines better.
 

rmenergy

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And as long as you keep up with that, the deck will last a lifetime.
It only needs to last until my son is out of the house & my in laws pass away. Once those two things happen I'm leaving CA. Unless there's some miracle that brings some sanity back to this state but 1000:1 I'm leaving.
 

IMMAjunkie1984

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Im sure if I did more decks, I'd have encountered redwood and other types, but it's always been green or composite. I'm really wanting to do a deck with the aluminum/steel frame, that that cost seems to still be sky high. That said, I'm in the house business and not decks, so I don't expect to build one again, any time soon.
 

rmenergy

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Im sure if I did more decks, I'd have encountered redwood and other types, but it's always been green or composite. I'm really wanting to do a deck with the aluminum/steel frame, that that cost seems to still be sky high. That said, I'm in the house business and not decks, so I don't expect to build one again, any time soon.
Actually did metal frame in our enclosed rear patio (think I posted pics to the old OG). Cost was the same as stick frame.
 

Hauler

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Im sure if I did more decks, I'd have encountered redwood and other types, but it's always been green or composite. I'm really wanting to do a deck with the aluminum/steel frame, that that cost seems to still be sky high. That said, I'm in the house business and not decks, so I don't expect to build one again, any time soon.
Here in the midwest, redwood was pretty popular back in the 90s / early 2000s for exterior trim.
Eventually it shifted from raw boards to finger-jointed primed redwood.

Then that fell off and the market switched to primed cedar if the homeowner still wanted wood.

Nowadays, it's actually pretty hard to find redwood at all out this way.
 

rmenergy

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Here in the midwest, redwood was pretty popular back in the 90s / early 2000s for exterior trim.
Eventually it shifted from raw boards to finger-jointed primed redwood.

Then that fell off and the market switched to primed cedar if the homeowner still wanted wood.

Nowadays, it's actually pretty hard to find redwood at all out this way.
Looking at the logging industry it makes sense that there's still a decent supply of redwood out here & in the PNW