Society Tommy Robinson freed!?
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This is actually a really good question.
I was thinking about how to answer it and realised how many different paths I'd go down to answer it thoroughly so people would see it from my point of view. But a simple question deserves a somewhat simple answer.
I put him in the same category as so many other public figures, podcasters and media pundits that I just don't trust and I think they have bad intentions but if you asked why , it would be really hard for me to single out something definitive. Let's call it the uncanny Valley of personalitys. They say a lot of the right stuff but there's something off about them . Where on an instinctual level I know it's not just a small difference of opinion but I actually see them as an enemy. Probably the biggest enemy. Someone who's intent is clearly subversion and while that seems clear to me , if only on a subconscious level, it's very unclear for others. Which magnifies my hatred for them. There are many people who fit this description for me . Tim pool would be an example.
Back to Tommy Robinson.
I'd heard about the guy for a couple of years then I listened to an extended interview with him about 4 years ago.
He explained everything thoroughly.
The first half of the interview I was natural. By halfway i started growing suspicious. By the end I knew there was something wrong with the guy.
He talked about the rape gangs , the police not doing there job because they were afraid of being called racist and the hate speech laws. But not once did he put the blame where the majority of the blame lies. On the government and the cops. But mostly the government.
He wasn't an idiot, I could tell that much . So it was hard for me to believe he was just misguided .
Then I came to find out later he's a massive Zionist and loves Israel.
Boom. Now it makes perfect sense.
Fuck that POS. He loves the country that's causing the problem.
Not the kind of person you want to be leading the fight against immigration.
Let's see how things would have turned out for him if he hated jews equally as much as Muslims.
Sorry for the FRAT but that's actually the short version.
On a side note. I know I have a problem with prattling on. It's actually a issue in my relationship with my wife. I have a grouped of thoughts that fit together and buttress my point and my wife will be " summarise " . I'll say " im almost there darlin , it'll all make sense in a second ". She'll be " no I don't want to hear anymore ".
I can absolutely sumarise but I don't think it's going to persuade anyone unless you explain your thought process.
Dacart summarised when he said " I think therefore I am " that doesn't mean shit to anyone unless you know what he was talking about and the problem of conciousness..
I could have summarised and said " the uncanny Valley of personality " but that wouldn't mean shit to anyone.
What I'm saying is I'm very open to suggestions on how to fix this issue of mine if anyone has some constructive criticism. Cos I'm right at the stage of just acknowledging " don't explain yourself, nobody gives a fuck ". Maybe the answer is as simple as that.
Damn, thanks for that thorough response. I agree with much of it. I forgot about Israel with him, which is often a tell, but it's not a tell like it used to be, because now it's en vouge to be critical of them, to a point, and there is a hard line people don't cross, ie controlled opposition. But I try not to throw the baby out with the bath water automatically
Regarding, "But not once did he put the blame where the majority of the blame lies. On the government and the cops. But mostly the government" I haven't heard him talk all that much actually, where is he putting the blame then? And I'm not sure Isreal is causing this problem as much as jewish influence is. Sure, they are tied together to a degree, but it's still a relatively safe zone to bash one, and a no go zone to bash the other.
One criticism he gets because I've seen it multiple times from Piers Morgan who goes in tangents about mortgage fraud, ruining some poor young Syrian boys life, etc. Morgan is the type who will be critical of mass immigration and some of what it brings, but if someone from the real opposition uses a non PC word, he turns his real ire towards them. These are the types who really can't be trusted.
Regarding, "But not once did he put the blame where the majority of the blame lies. On the government and the cops. But mostly the government" I haven't heard him talk all that much actually, where is he putting the blame then? And I'm not sure Isreal is causing this problem as much as jewish influence is. Sure, they are tied together to a degree, but it's still a relatively safe zone to bash one, and a no go zone to bash the other.
One criticism he gets because I've seen it multiple times from Piers Morgan who goes in tangents about mortgage fraud, ruining some poor young Syrian boys life, etc. Morgan is the type who will be critical of mass immigration and some of what it brings, but if someone from the real opposition uses a non PC word, he turns his real ire towards them. These are the types who really can't be trusted.
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He puts the blame on the Muslims. They are evil and Muslim immigration bad , rape gangs bad blah blah.
Of course they're bad. They should be publicly torcherd and hung.
But he had every opportunity to go fucking off on the cops and government for doing the exact opposite of their jobs and didn't.
He basically just blamed society for being to liberal these day's.
That's fucking insane.
It would be like Epstein trafficking kid's for billionaires to fuck and putting the sole blame on the kid fuckers with undeniable proof that the government ( cia and mossad) not only knew about it but were actively involved in the operation and not holding them accountable at all.
I don't know about you but to me the taxpayers funding an entity to allow people to fuck kids deserves way more outrage.
I think that is a very accurate analogy.
The other point I was making is that , like so many of these people I don't like , is I knew the guy was a scumbag before I knew he loved on jews and isreal. I just didn't know why exactly, at least not in a way that I could explain to someone persuasively. I honestly wish people would start throwing out the baby with the bathwater more often because 90+% of people, even on the fringe right are not genuine.
They love government " just gotta get the right people in there, vote in local elections, jump up and down , start a community ".
It's all bullshit. It's the very definition of controlled opposition. Your not going to change shit.
It's like saying " comunisim just needs to be done right ".
Hitler was a fucking socialist. That's my problem with him.
So you have socialisim from the left and the right.
They don't even deny that.
I wont go on. I could go into real detail explaining my position and why I'm correct. I don't think people give a fuck though. I don't expect what I've said to be persuasive but I could absolutely break down what I mean so it's more understandable. I'll just end up going on for a long time.
*I'm sorry, but for someone to be half cancelled and critical of the jews is not enough for me think they are not controlled opposition. In fact, it's basically a requirement for them to be controlled opposition * that's my summary *
Excellent post.
The problem isn't just the people in the system it's the system itself.
Thank you so much for acknowledging that. I wish people would at least occasionally remind themselves of that.
People really really tend to look past that point.
There's currently 195 countries with governments and all of them are completely fucked in one way or another. Not to mention just about every version you can think of when you go back in history. Yet nobody ( at least with any brains- so progressive shit libs excluded) looks at a single one and goes. " we just need to have a government like that ".
Nope. You just get fuck heads that say " we need to do it right " even though that cannot describe what" right "is . At best it's some version of a theocratic ethnostate. Apparently that's " doing it right ".
The fuck outta here.
Sure, there are 195 countries with governments, and throughout history, countless more, and 99% of them dont actively replace their native population. So it's not as if there is some bug in the system that trends towards this. In fact it's the opposite. The feature in the system is what you say, they all suck, but they are not all equal.
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Not sure im understanding you.
Are you saying they all have problems.
But immigration being the main problem is not inherent to government as a whole it's only some governments that have this problem and if we could solve for this issue then that would be a massive step towards a better world?
I can largely agree with that. The thing is i probably use the word blame incorrectly sometimes.
I don't entirely blame government for the immigration problem. I blame Jews and shitlibs for that. But I do expect that government needs to be held accountable 100% for it.
The problem with government. Is it is 100% able to be manipulated and influenced in a any way that will fit an agenda if there's a sufficient push for it.
In other words it can be co-opted / brought off by Israel and China ect to push this kind of shit on its citizens wether they want it or not.
It can be done for any matter by anyone. They can tyrinase people by cutting your kids dick off without you having a say. The list of shit they can do is endless. Things that could never otherwise be done if not for the state being involved.
Therefore, since all forms of government are susceptible and capable of this they are all broken and rather than being any kind of safeguard against tyranny that they propose to be .They are in fact the best mechanism there is for implementing said tyranny,usurping of liberty's and providing safety for guilty. You see it all the time in the injustice system. The one that is supposedly in charge of policing itself yet is never policed ( what a surprise).
All government is invalid and the opposite of what it's claimed to be.
Was that to much ?
"Not sure im understanding you.
Are you saying they all have problems.
But immigration being the main problem is not inherent to government as a whole it's only some governments that have this problem and if we could solve for this issue then that would be a massive step towards a better world?"
Exactly this
Are you saying they all have problems.
But immigration being the main problem is not inherent to government as a whole it's only some governments that have this problem and if we could solve for this issue then that would be a massive step towards a better world?"
Exactly this
Ok . Well if I didn't explain myself correctly. My summary would be if other governments arnt doing it but can do it ( which they can ) that's still a problem.
It's borderline treasonous.
They should be dragged out into the streets and stoned to death ( the government) . But that's against the law. What a surprise.
We wont even get an apology from them.
But yes. Immigration is a massive massive problem and it sure would be nice if they didn't shove it down our throat.
Good post.
I only have passing familiarity with him but he's never passed the smell test from what I've observed and a quick search on Yandex (google and duckduckgo skew results to a ridiculous extent) for Tommy Robinson, Israel turns up more than enough to know he isn't what he pretends to be.
Tommy Robinson isn't even his real name. It's actually Stephen Yaxley and he's changed it to Stephen Yaxley Lennon but he also apparently calls himself Andrew McMaster and Paul Harris.
Quite apart from the glaring israel connections, he's also evidently a jeetophile:
View: https://twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/1820866327956828361
Umm, yeah, fuck this guy. Reminds me when conservatives rail against illegal immigration such as the hordes that poured over the southern border, and rightfully so obviously, but then always follow up with how they can't get enough of the legal kind as if there are only positives that come from it.
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I understand where you're coming from but it might make more sense to take a look at some of the results of a Yandex search for Tommy Robinson, controlled opposition.
View: https://twitter.com/AdameMedia/status/1820572644279763090
They play that dance ( the jews ) on both sides
Obviously they're worried England is becoming to sympathetic to the Palestinians
I couldn't agree more.
It's just a given "we need implementation ". Through years of brainwashing.
Just like it was a given tariffs will cause massive inflation.
Well done on the research.
People really need to start trusting "the smell test ".
People have been conditioned to think " well he makes a lot of good points but im not sure about that but I don't agree with everyone on everything so that's normal ".
The difference is that's with everyday people you meet, where they generally don't have a reason to not tell their honest opinions.
Public figures are more than likely full of shit. Wether it's back door money , audience capture or fear of being cancelled.
I'm incredibly decerning when listening, right down to what they aren't saying and their phrasing.
The give-aways are always saying.
One of the biggest things I look for is " ok what can I safely assume this guy knows about and did he mention it , if not why ".
It's a very good tell , especially for conservatives. That's why I knew people like Charlie kirk were full of shit even before this isreal shit.
How many times have you heard him mention lysander spooner? Never.
He knows very well who he is. Worse than that he knows he's right and can't argue the point. So he never mentions him.
You can't make the arguments he makes in good faith and not bring up spooner.
The only people who do are people who've never heard of him.
Same goes for James Lindsay. I heard him briefly disparage spooner once. That's all it took for me to know he's a POS.
This was at least a year before he exposed himself.