General Trump's Running Shit Like a Motherfuckin BOSSS

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Bungee up

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I don't know about primarying massie, but of all the bullshit bills to vote down this ain't one. It's not as bad as they've made out by a long shot from what I can tell.

Anyone who believes elon is against it for the reasons he says he is is kidding themselves.
Notice how he hasn't said specifically what he dosent like about it. If he had a specific he'd definitely be stating it.
That guy has made his career off government spending.
 

Thuglife13

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I don't know about primarying massie, but of all the bullshit bills to vote down this ain't one. It's not as bad as they've made out by a long shot from what I can tell.

Anyone who believes elon is against it for the reasons he says he is is kidding themselves.
Notice how he hasn't said specifically what he dosent like about it. If he had a specific he'd definitely be stating it.
That guy has made his career off government spending.
Everything is fake and gay now...


View: https://twitter.com/Shawn_Farash/status/1940479058199888017
 

scourge

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Is Hakeem Jeffries gonna try and match Cory Booker's 25 hour speech? Is he delaying so Trump doesn't get it passed by July Fourth? Or is he delaying while they are trying to sway voters against the bill?
 

Wild

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yo Wild @Wild, what are your personal thoughts on Stephen Miller as a person? You view him as a good-faith actor or a propagandist pushing specific agendas?
Well, he's Jewish so that immediately gives me pause. Guess we can start there. Do I think he's pushing hard (i.e. propaganda) on this bill? Absolutely. But I think his agenda for pushing this bill is genuine, because this administration feels it will help boost the economy, help address illegal immigration, increase law enforcement, and make the country safer & more prosperous.

Is this bill perfect? No. It certainly has it's flaws. Most glaringly, it's going to increase the deficit by about $3 to $5 trillion, depending on who you listen to. I also don't like the large funding that's in it for AI and other projects. And I'm sure there's a bunch of other pork in there that isn't great for the country (like all bills).

But it increases ICE funding by about 13x what it is now, and I'm a firm believer that mass deportations & sealing the border should be our main priority at the moment. Because deporting millions of illegals is going to have a huge positive impact to our economy and our culture, in my opinion. There's millions of illegals (and US citizens as well) who are defrauding America of Medicare, Social Security, EBT/SNAP, etc. Getting those people out of the system will save the country billions, if not trillions ($ towards national debt). It will also create jobs for Americans, lessen competing demand for homes, and reduce stress on our infrastructure (traffic congestion, roads, schools, hospitals, police & fire departments, etc). It will drive down insurance costs (how many illegals are stealing cars, driving w/ no insurance & causing accidents, etc). Our premiums have increased 40-50% over the past 4-6 years, because of that. It will also change the census of several states, which will impact House & Senate seats. There's a huge trickle down effect to getting these people out of the country. So just in that regard, I say pass the thing.

Then there's the tax stuff for tips, Social Security, etc. From what I've read, I don't think it's exactly "no tax" like the administration is saying, but it's certainly better than current state and should benefit the middle class.

No bill is perfect, but this at least a step in the right direction, in my opinion.
 

Bungee up

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Well, he's Jewish so that immediately gives me pause. Guess we can start there. Do I think he's pushing hard (i.e. propaganda) on this bill? Absolutely. But I think his agenda for pushing this bill is genuine, because this administration feels it will help boost the economy, help address illegal immigration, increase law enforcement, and make the country safer & more prosperous.

Is this bill perfect? No. It certainly has it's flaws. Most glaringly, it's going to increase the deficit by about $3 to $5 trillion, depending on who you listen to. I also don't like the large funding that's in it for AI and other projects. And I'm sure there's a bunch of other pork in there that isn't great for the country (like all bills).

But it increases ICE funding by about 13x what it is now, and I'm a firm believer that mass deportations & sealing the border should be our main priority at the moment. Because deporting millions of illegals is going to have a huge positive impact to our economy and our culture, in my opinion. There's millions of illegals (and US citizens as well) who are defrauding America of Medicare, Social Security, EBT/SNAP, etc. Getting those people out of the system will save the country billions, if not trillions ($ towards national debt). It will also create jobs for Americans, lessen competing demand for homes, and reduce stress on our infrastructure (traffic congestion, roads, schools, hospitals, police & fire departments, etc). It will drive down insurance costs (how many illegals are stealing cars, driving w/ no insurance & causing accidents, etc). Our premiums have increased 40-50% over the past 4-6 years, because of that. It will also change the census of several states, which will impact House & Senate seats. There's a huge trickle down effect to getting these people out of the country. So just in that regard, I say pass the thing.

Then there's the tax stuff for tips, Social Security, etc. From what I've read, I don't think it's exactly "no tax" like the administration is saying, but it's certainly better than current state and should benefit the middle class.

No bill is perfect, but this at least a step in the right direction, in my opinion.
Exactly the right take IMO.
 

Wild

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The Big Beautiful Bill will supercharge deportations & once we get the majority of them out, America will prosper like never before.

- $46.5B for 701 miles of walls, 900 miles of river barriers, roads, sensors, cameras, etc
- $45B to double ICE detention beds to 100,000.
- $16.1B for 5,000 CBP officers - 3,000 Border Patrol agents, 10,000 ICE officers, plus $2.1B in bonuses.
- $14B for mass deportation operations (1M+ annually).
- $5.5B for CBP upgrades, drones, tech. - $10B for ICE/CBP operations.