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Main Card (ESPN+ PPV at 2 p.m. ET)
  • Ilia Topuria vs. Max Holloway - Title Fight
  • Robert Whittaker vs. Khamzat Chimaev
  • Magomed Ankalaev vs. Aleksandar Rakic
  • Lerone Murphy vs. Dan Ige
  • Shara Magomedov vs. Armen Petrosyan
Undercard (ESPN+ at 10 a.m. ET)
  • Ibo Aslan vs. Raffael Cerqueira
  • Geoff Neal vs. Rafael dos Anjos
  • Myktybek Orolbai vs. Mateusz Rebecki
  • Abus Magomedov vs. Brunno Ferreira
  • Kennedy Nzechukwu vs. Chris Barnett
  • Farid Basharat vs. Victor Hugo
  • Ismail Naurdiev vs. Bruno Silva
  • Rinat Fakhretdinov vs. Carlos Leal
 

Rambo John J

Baker Team
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Damn, this really is an early start...7am over here

Actually thought the Jones Stipe fight was this weekend, didn't realize that is a different card

Pretty stacked card and not a lot of female fights if any, which is nice
 

ECC170

Monster's 11,ATM 2,Parlay Challenge,Hero GP Champ
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Jan 23, 2015
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1 of the best cards i can remember in a while!
 

jason73

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straight up robbery for the muslim fighter right off the bat
 

TheAwkwardTitan

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What's up with all the chatter online completely writing off Max? Has no one watched Max fight? I've even seen analysts try to say Ilia will give Max similar problems that Volk gave him, but that take missed a big piece of the puzzle. Volk's output. Volk can go 5 rounds with a guy like Max throwing as much or more the entire time. Ilia stylistically is a much more patient fighter and I'm not calling his cardio into question, but his lower output can easily lead to him being quickly left behind on the scorecards. Not only that but his defense isn't as impenetrable as people think it is. By MMA standards it's great but he leaves his chin open almost everytime after throwing that right hand (look at the Mitchell fight it was especially egregious, he however tightened up a bit when fighting volk, and got dropped by Herbet right after he threw that right hand albeit that was a sneaky fucking kick). Volk was also having great success with his jab and Max being taller could also lend to that being the case for him. To be fair though Max isn't as fast is Volk, nor is he as fast as he used to be from what I've seen. Still there's an obvious path to victory for Max. Volume and not getting his legendary chin cracked for the first time ever when ilia inevitably does land that right hand. Specifically though I wouldn't be surprised if ilia got caught with a kick while leaning or level changing as he seems to do a lot. I also wouldn't be surprised if Max had success firing back if he can slip out of range of Ilias leaping right hand. I also think he may be able to keep it in kicking range a lot by utilizing the teep he was using on geathje.

knowing how Max fights I don't think any one of these things will be ingrained in his gameplan, but he has tools at his disposal that can give him big moments. If he can have good moments while also being more active he's just going to take this on the scorecards. If he can keep the fight standing most rounds and his chin can avoid father time..... Max is the favorite. Fuck I wouldn't be surprised if he absolutely dominates Ilia. Outside of the commentary team riding Ilia's dick about leg kicks for the first round or two. Without putting out a pace similar to Volk's the leg kicks just won't fucking matter on the scorecards here. Mark my words Max is going to have a lot more success than people expect early, probably eat some hard shots, and then pull away the longer the fight goes on. Ilia's record doesn't impress me that much outside of being the 2nd guy to find Volk's chin. This whole stylistic nightmare for Max take I see on Reddit is going to go up in flames.
 
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SongExotic2

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What's up with all the chatter online completely writing off Max? Has no one watched Max fight? I've even seen analysts try to say Ilia will give Max similar problems that Volk gave him, but that take missed a big piece of the puzzle. Volk's output. Volk can go 5 rounds with a guy like Max throwing as much or more the entire time. Ilia stylistically is a much more patient fighter and I'm not calling his cardio into question, but his lower output can easily lead to him being quickly left behind on the scorecards. Not only that but his defense isn't as impenetrable as people think it is. By MMA standards it's great but he leaves his chin open almost everytime after throwing that right hand (look at the Mitchell fight it was especially egregious, he however tightened up a bit when fighting volk, and got dropped by Herbet right after he threw that right hand albeit that was a sneaky fucking kick). Volk was also having great success with his jab and Max being taller could also lend to that being the case for him. To be fair though Max isn't as fast is Volk, nor is he as fast as he used to be from what I've seen. Still there's an obvious path to victory for Max. Volume and not getting his legendary chin cracked for the first time ever when ilia inevitably does land that right hand. Specifically though I wouldn't be surprised if ilia got caught with a kick while leaning or level changing as he seems to do a lot. I also wouldn't be surprised if Max had success firing back if he can slip out of range of Ilias leaping right hand. I also think he may be able to keep it in kicking range a lot by utilizing the teep he was using on geathje.

knowing how Max fights I don't think any one of these things will be exactly ingrained in his gameplan but he has tools at his disposal here that can clearly help him have big moments. And if can have good moments while also being much more active he's just going to take this on the scorecards pretty easily. If he can keep the fight standing most rounds and avoid father time for his chin then he is simply the favorite. Fuck I wouldn't be surprised if he absolutely dominates Ilia outside of the commentary team riding Ilia's dick about leg kicks for the first round or two. Without putting out a pace similar to Volk's the leg kicks just won't fucking matter on the scorecards here. Mark my words Max is going to have a lot more success than people expect early, probably eat some hard shots, and then pull away the longer the fight goes on. Ilia's record doesn't impress me that much outside of being the 2nd guy to find Volk's chin. This whole stylistic nightmare for Max take I see on Reddit is going to go up in flames.
Anyone read all this shit?
 

jason73

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the guy has one fucked up eye and he is some sort of chinaman anyways. he must have almost zero vision left at this point
 

TheAwkwardTitan

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Alright I'll be back for the main card. Max by 4th round finish or decision. If I'm wrong I'll suck a homeless man's dick on camera.