Why, is the land becoming uninhabitable? I don't think western Europe is going anywhere, so people will live there. And they'll be western Europeans, like I am.
General The contemptible concept of 'white privilege' is just ugly, angry racism
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No it's not. I live here and it's awesome.
I am sure it is, for you. My sister also enjoys Scandinavia, those gated communities seem lovely.
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Society treats you differently? Well who is society? How many people is society? How many people does the average person interact with on a daily basis?
I didn't say white people have a better chance of living in nicer communities, did I?
Here's where I just can't entertain what you're saying:
You can't seem to define what this white privilege is but want to believe in it regardless.
You can pretend that someone may not be as personable with someone because of their race, but you can't know if that's really the reason. That was a hypothetical example, but you're running with it like it's some kind of indisputable fact. I think I've found the religion you subscribe to Leigh.
You also can't seem to account for how people of Asian descent outperform everyone.
The majority of Ghanians have a better chance of living in low crime areas as well, is it because no white people live there or is it because the past majority worked hard to make something civilized for the current majority.
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That was your example. I simply addressed it.
Yes, I quoted you further up.
Yes I can define it, why do you think I can't? I mean, you do seem confused over what white privilege is, so maybe I should explain it for you:
White privilege simply means you have advantages because you are white.
You gave the example, I addresses it, once. That isn't running with it, it's addressing the points you raise.
What religion is that? You've made other baseless comments on me, like I attack you for implying I'm not balanced. Please substantiate.
Again, can't I? Why do you keep assuming I can't explain things? First of all, you're wrong. Go to Asia; much of it is a shithole. I'm guessing you mean westerners of Asian heritage, in which case it's a factor of culture and the point that working immigrants have already demonstrated a proactive attitude towards self sufficiency.
LOL ok
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What advantages? Advantages over whom?
Your either trolling or being willfully ignorant. You've admitted you would rather be white in the US. I'm not entertaining your mischaracterisations any further.
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Where? I can't find it, you can, can you post that quote please.?
Yeah that's running with it, sir. If you don't know if something happened or why something happened but then want to pretend that it's a common occurrence and call it white privilege then you're full of shit. If someone was assy to me because I'm not Turkish in east London, then it wouldn't be grounds to vandalize the joint. Do I know that happens? I know Turks were assy to me but maybe they're assy to everyone. I can't pretend that assy Turks are a common occurrence in society.
And the penny has finally dropped.
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Admitted? Good lord, are you really stooping to that level?
Answering that question only proves I would prefer to be who I am.
Finally dropped for who? I've known this for years, being the son of an Asian immigrant. But I'm glad I could help.
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I used to get rocks thrown at me as a kid by natives and whites who said I killed Jesus.
It was a privilege
It was a privilege
Where I live it's like 99% white Irish/British. There wasn't a black person in my high school. I've been competing against other whites for jobs all my life, so I don't feel like I have "white privilege", at least not yet!
Unfortunately it's often used that way.
If that were true it would be called "racial privilege" and not "white privilege". The same way we can demonstrate that race doesn't exist and is a social construct, we can do the same with racial privilege.
Agreed and I've criticised that on this thread.
We can use the term racial privilege if you like. It's probably a better term, anyway. In any case, it is born out of racism and whilst race doesn't physically exist, racism IS real.
FWIW, I also think there are black privileges.
Racism certainly is real, and it effects all people, even white ones. Which is why the concept of "white privilege" doesn't hold water.
Y'all buddies need to be nicer. I know I tucking lobe leegh. Even though Banchan is bald.
Bless everyone.
Bless everyone.
Also racism is dumb.
I have much to say on this thread, but not much time. I will only say this for now.
The concept of privilege is complicated and trying to have oversimplified conversations about it is problematic. There are gradations of privilege, within and between cultural groups. Privilege is also not static, but can shift in certain localized contexts based on power dynamics.
The challenge is that the very idea of whiteness was constructed to promote and embody supremacy and separation. It's not a very old concept. It only really becomes conceptualized in the mid-1800s and then solidified in the US in the late 1880s at the fall of reconstruction. Then in the early 20th century it gains traction before becoming firmly institutionalized (and incorporating other groups traditionally excluded from whiteness) as a way to formally deny access around the 1940s and 50s with the construction of the American middle class. Denial of mobility to move into that class was one of the catalysts of northern and southern solidarity to respond to segregation with the mid-century Civil Rights movement. To even say you feel attacked for being white is to subscribe to this historical racist construction. When we talk about privilege today, we are talking about the residual effects, economically, politically and culturally, of this hegemonic construction of whiteness, which as Leigh points out, is not real in any physical sense, but absolutely real in a socially constructed sense. There is plenty of empirical evidence of this manifestation well into the contemporary period, both qualitative and quantitative.
To me the biggest difficulty of having these conversations is that people mistakenly believe that racism is about personally held beliefs. That is a psychological definition of racism rather than a sociological one, which is more suited to conversations about privilege. I think the term becomes alienating because people of European ancestry think they're being accused of psychological racism, which they wouldn't entirely be aware of anyway, rather than understanding that they benefit from a social construction that was from its origins meant to exclude and marginalize people based on both skin color and cultural ancestry. That system is continually reified even as it's challenged and subverted, which is why I say it isn't static. Just for a recent example, see the recent settlement by Toyota and realize that these kinds of things are encoded into liberal democratic societies DNA despite their pretensions of freedom and justice. I have more to say, but no time to right now.
The concept of privilege is complicated and trying to have oversimplified conversations about it is problematic. There are gradations of privilege, within and between cultural groups. Privilege is also not static, but can shift in certain localized contexts based on power dynamics.
The challenge is that the very idea of whiteness was constructed to promote and embody supremacy and separation. It's not a very old concept. It only really becomes conceptualized in the mid-1800s and then solidified in the US in the late 1880s at the fall of reconstruction. Then in the early 20th century it gains traction before becoming firmly institutionalized (and incorporating other groups traditionally excluded from whiteness) as a way to formally deny access around the 1940s and 50s with the construction of the American middle class. Denial of mobility to move into that class was one of the catalysts of northern and southern solidarity to respond to segregation with the mid-century Civil Rights movement. To even say you feel attacked for being white is to subscribe to this historical racist construction. When we talk about privilege today, we are talking about the residual effects, economically, politically and culturally, of this hegemonic construction of whiteness, which as Leigh points out, is not real in any physical sense, but absolutely real in a socially constructed sense. There is plenty of empirical evidence of this manifestation well into the contemporary period, both qualitative and quantitative.
To me the biggest difficulty of having these conversations is that people mistakenly believe that racism is about personally held beliefs. That is a psychological definition of racism rather than a sociological one, which is more suited to conversations about privilege. I think the term becomes alienating because people of European ancestry think they're being accused of psychological racism, which they wouldn't entirely be aware of anyway, rather than understanding that they benefit from a social construction that was from its origins meant to exclude and marginalize people based on both skin color and cultural ancestry. That system is continually reified even as it's challenged and subverted, which is why I say it isn't static. Just for a recent example, see the recent settlement by Toyota and realize that these kinds of things are encoded into liberal democratic societies DNA despite their pretensions of freedom and justice. I have more to say, but no time to right now.
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Because you've demonstrated no ability to do so. The best you can muster is take some quotes here or there and respond to them indirectly. You've given zero explanation of exactly what you presume white privilege to be.
That's where the penny should have dropped Leigh, I'm guessing it did and you know full-well that prosperity is by-and-large due to how someone was raised. You can pretend it's about race if you want but you know as well as I do that you're full of shit if you do.
No one has provided any real examples of what this privilege amounts to or what they think should be done about it. It's all horseshit that some people are peddling to try and increase their profit on social transactions.
The epitomy of a straw man. I'm waiting for you to go full Godwin next.
You're talking to the most ignored memeber of the forum. Now you know why. Another retard.
come on bro
@Leigh isnt that bad lol