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tang

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When your argument is based on hypotheticals (like yours is), it's weak and not worth arguing tbh.

Do your homework, come back with a stronger premise, and I might take you seriously.
All ur trying to do is fill ur agenda, trying to pursuade ur view on others, and if other’s opinions don’t fit in, u pull ur “argument fallacy”. Y did u create this site when u could have just made a long ass post about how u feel about the issue.

What was you trying to accomplish again by creating this thread?
 
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All ur trying to do is fill ur agenda, trying to pursuade ur view on others, and if other’s opinions don’t fit in, u pull ur “argument fallacy”. Y did u create this site when u could have just made a long ass post about how u feel about the issue.

What was you trying to accomplish again by creating this site?
Though I am undoubtedly one of the pillars of this community (as confirmed in separate PMs from all 3 admins), I am not one of the site creators.

That would be @Splinty and Wild @Wild, the latter of whom can give you a highly detailed explanation as to why this forum was created.
 

Rambo John J

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guys

just stop

this thread blows asshole

Don't shoot anyone and don't ignore signs of mental illness or threats of violence

we all good....we all on same team
 

Drex

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guys

just stop

this thread blows asshole

Don't shoot anyone and don't ignore signs of mental illness or threats of violence

we all good....we all on same team
You're right, the answer is love. We need to spread it more.
 
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It may be small, but it's still progress:

Trump pushes for ban on modified guns
It will make almost no difference, though since I think the intent of the devices goes against the intent of the law I'm fine with it. Can do the same thing on any gun with a shoestring.


Largest issues that the background check system is a complete failure. It needs significant updating.
Maybe its too hard to update or too fractured. But whatever it is, it needs data to work.

People that shouldn't have guns go buy guns legally because it's a failure.

People who shouldn't have guns try to buy them and there is zero follow-up in many states when they get denied.

Half of crime guns are straw purchases. The fear of God should be in people moving these guns to the wrong people.

80% of gun crime performed with a gun that isn't there's. Campaigns to shame and educate unsafe gun storing and firearm control should be moved like cigarette ads. No one has ever had one of my guns without my knowledge. They've never been out of my control.



 
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@Splinty was that pie chart part of a study written by a person named Pittsburgh or is it representative of only the city of Pittsburgh?
 
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Here's a new stat I wasn't aware of:

2000 report from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms found that in 1998, more than 85 percent of gun dealers had no guns used in crimes trace back to them. By contrast, 1 percent of dealers accounted for nearly 6 in 10 crime gun traces that year.

The firearms bureau knows exactly who these gun dealers are — but they're not allowed to share that information with policymakers or researchers due to a law passed by Congress in 2003.
The law should be addressing those dealers.
Yeah they are probably in high crime areas is the reason.

Tough shit. The goal is to not funnel guns to the wrong people and 1/100 make of 60% of the problem.

85% manage gun sales with zero crime guns.


There must be a way to minimize that movement.
Can't expect zero but the outliers need to be addressed for being a significant portion of the problem.

@Splinty was that pie chart part of a study written by a person named Pittsburgh or is it representative of only the city of Pittsburgh?
Pittsburgh only. There are little to no state and federal level studies due to laws that prevent the data from being shared. Researchers have to team up with local police entities to data gather.

The lack of larger data gathering is a problem too.

Regardless, almost 50% of crime gun sources are straw purchases and that goes to the same issue...people have guns they didn't buy, and therefore circumvented the background check process.
Straw purchases are already a felony. They should be enforced.