General The contemptible concept of 'white privilege' is just ugly, angry racism

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Greek777

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It's one of those things that just because we think it exists, doesn't mean it does. It's divisive and as others have mentioned, it will swing the pendulum the other way, in time.
It's so obvious that this will happen that I have to wonder if it (this white-privilege bullshit) isn't by design.
I certainly don't think any sort of division is a good thing between races. But that said, would you rather your child grew up or white or black in America? I think you know the answer. Yes, poor white people have very hard lives too. I'm just saying though.
 
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I certainly don't think any sort of division is a good thing between races. But that said, would you rather your child grew up or white or black in America? I think you know the answer. Yes, poor white people have very hard lives too. I'm just saying though.
I am white, I would want my child to grow up in an environment I understand. I think you may be making unfounded conclusions based on very little data.
That said, I think we both agree that crime and violence seem to be higher among black communities, but is that because white people are privileged? It just doesn't make sense to think that way imo.
 

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I am white, I would want my child to grow up in an environment I understand. I think you may be making unfounded conclusions based on very little data.
That said, I think we both agree that crime and violence seem to be higher among black communities, but is that because white people are privileged? It just doesn't make sense to think that way imo.
That IS part of the privilege. Less likely to live in a community with higher rates of crime and violence.
 
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That IS part of the privilege. Less likely to live in a community with higher rates of crime and violence.
Good god, tell me you're joking.
That's the privilege of being in the majority of one of the most economically developed nations on the planet. Lower crime rates are not the result of skin colour, they are the results of more stable family units which create more stable communities. Anyone who would attempt to debate otherwise simply puts their own racist tendencies on display for all to see.
 

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Good god, tell me you're joking.
That's the privilege of being in the majority of one of the most economically developed nations on the planet. Lower crime rates are not the result of skin colour, they are the results of more stable family units which create more stable communities. Anyone who would attempt to debate otherwise simply puts their own racist tendencies on display for all to see.
"Majority"?

WTF are you talking about?
 
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"Majority"?

WTF are you talking about?
I'm not sure what there is to not understand. It's possible we just think differently and what's clear to me, isn't to you and vice versa. I don't know why you always get so combative if it is ever suggested you're not as fair-minded as you would like to be. Anyhow, here's how I see it:
The majority of Japanese live alright. The majority of Koreans live alright. The majority of Senegalese live alright. The majority of Ghanaians live alright. The majority of English live alright. The majority of Americans live alright. They are part of the majority by way of descending from the previous majority.

Those previous majorities worked hard to try and develop the place. Now, in "western" countries, everyone who can trace their lineage back to Africa and Asia, is blaming the white majority for being the descendants of the people who made the place (western nations) liveable.
Hey assholes, try saying "thank you" instead.
 
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I think you should ask your question differently if you want a different answer.
 

Leigh

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That's the privilege of being in the majority of one of the most economically developed nations on the planet.
Now, in "western" countries, everyone who can trace their lineage back to Africa and Asia, is blaming the white majority for being the descendants of the people who made the place (western nations) liveable.
Hey assholes, try saying "thank you" instead.
So the majority have privilege and that majority is white. You therefore acknowledge white privilege.

Also, pretty fucking racist to say that everyone who has African or Asian ancestry is an asshole.

And also pretty racist to break demographics down by race and imply the majority are superior.
 
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So the majority have privilege and that majority is white. You therefore acknowledge white privilege.

Also, pretty fucking racist to say that everyone who has African or Asian ancestry is an asshole.

And also pretty racist to break demographics down by race and imply the majority are superior.
I did make an overgeneralization, it's true not everyone who can trace their lineage back to Africa or Asia is getting in on this anti-white campaign.

The simple answer is: sorry Leigh, you're wrong. "Privilege" and "Majority" are not close synonyms. You can try and make that case but it'll be a waste of energy.

The more interesting answer is a lot of people are equating the two because everyone has, somewhere inside them, an "us vs. them" mentality. So it's not just you, don't worry :)

Getting back to it, it's not that whites in the western countries are any more privileged than anyone else (re: skin colour) living in those same countries, it's just that they descend from the previous majority. And the majority wanted a nice place for everyone to live in. And apparently they did a good job of the heavy lifting because a lot of people from other nations have wanted in on it for some time now. Everyone can enjoy the place and their odds of doing so are GREATLY increased by coming from a stable family with two parents, (at least one of whom is well-educated) who talk to their children and try to raise them well. That environment leads to less crime and generally people enjoy stability and serenity more than instability and the constant presence of violence.

The majority of people living in the west who descend from Asia are doing extremely well, is that due to some privilege or due to how they are raised? Or is it just those grubby whites, who wouldn't be worth shit if it wasn't for their privilege? Could you even define white privilege? Does anyone else have a privilege?
 

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I did make an overgeneralization, it's true not everyone who can trace their lineage back to Africa or Asia is getting in on this anti-white campaign.

The simple answer is: sorry Leigh, you're wrong. "Privilege" and "Majority" are not close synonyms. You can try and make that case but it'll be a waste of energy.

The more interesting answer is a lot of people are equating the two because everyone has, somewhere inside them, an "us vs. them" mentality. So it's not just you, don't worry :)

Getting back to it, it's not that whites in the western countries are any more privileged than anyone else (re: skin colour) living in those same countries, it's just that they descend from the previous majority. And the majority wanted a nice place for everyone to live in. And apparently they did a good job of the heavy lifting because a lot of people from other nations have wanted in on it for some time now. Everyone can enjoy the place and their odds of doing so are GREATLY increased by coming from a stable family with two parents, (at least one of whom is well-educated) who talk to their children and try to raise them well. That environment leads to less crime and generally people enjoy stability and serenity more than instability and the constant presence of violence.

The majority of people living in the west who descend from Asia are doing extremely well, is that due to some privilege or due to how they are raised? Or is it just those grubby whites, who wouldn't be worth shit if it wasn't for their privilege? Could you even define white privilege? Does anyone else have a privilege?
Apology accepted.

You're mischaracterising my position. I haven't said "majority" and "privilege" are synonyms. And I don't blame white people at all and I don't have a them vs us mentality. That's because I don't believe in the unscientific notion of race. I don't care about forming my social groups based on my appearance. I can't judge someone by a metric I don't believe is real.

I agree that western countries are much nicer than just about everywhere else. But again, I don't factor race. Most of the "best" countries are predominantly "white" but Russia is a bit of a shithole, as is much of colonised South America. Japan is much nicer.

So your simple answer of me being wrong is the definition of a straw man: you've made up a position I haven't taken and attacked it.

My only position is that white privilege exists in the US, although I acknowledge BeardOfKnowledge @ConorMcGregorsBeard's valid point that it is difficult/impossible to quantify. Your posts have repeatedly supported this, although you now seem to be disagreeing with your previous statements. In any case, the simple litmus test is: would you rather be black or white in the US?

I don't think the issue is as severe as a lot of lefties make it out to be.
 
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My only position is that white privilege exists in the US, although I acknowledge BeardOfKnowledge @ConorMcGregorsBeard's valid point that it is difficult/impossible to quantify. Your posts have repeatedly supported this, although you now seem to be disagreeing with your previous statements. In any case, the simple litmus test is: would you rather be black or white in the US?
Okay so you're saying it exists but it's impossible to quantify, is that right?
If you're saying it exists and it is due to being the majority then I don't see how you can claim I'm mischaracterizing your position.
If you're saying it exists due to some other factor then I'm all ears.
The question you're proposing is a non-sequitur, I wouldn't want to live in the U.S. but if I did, I'd want to be me, that's a pretty standard answer. If someone would want to be a different race in the U.S. then they have emotional issues and that is their problem.
 

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I'm not sure what there is to not understand. It's possible we just think differently and what's clear to me, isn't to you and vice versa. I don't know why you always get so combative if it is ever suggested you're not as fair-minded as you would like to be. Anyhow, here's how I see it:
The majority of Japanese live alright. The majority of Koreans live alright. The majority of Senegalese live alright. The majority of Ghanaians live alright. The majority of English live alright. The majority of Americans live alright. They are part of the majority by way of descending from the previous majority.

Those previous majorities worked hard to try and develop the place. Now, in "western" countries, everyone who can trace their lineage back to Africa and Asia, is blaming the white majority for being the descendants of the people who made the place (western nations) liveable.
Hey assholes, try saying "thank you" instead.
I keep forgetting, but its very clear you're not American nor live in America, nor are aware of the reasons 'black communities" in America are often time poorer than others; and why that leads to higher crime rates. I'm sure you think its some other reason than the historical facts though.
Your foreign privilege disables you from comprehending it.
 
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Those previous majorities worked hard to try and develop the place. Now, in "western" countries, everyone who can trace their lineage back to Africa and Asia, is blaming the white majority for being the descendants of the people who made the place (western nations) liveable.
Hey assholes, try saying "thank you" instead.
How common is it for Asians to blame the White majority?
 

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My only position is that white privilege exists in the US, although I acknowledge BeardOfKnowledge @ConorMcGregorsBeard's valid point that it is difficult/impossible to quantify. Your posts have repeatedly supported this, although you now seem to be disagreeing with your previous statements. In any case, the simple litmus test is: would you rather be black or white in the US?
Is that question directed at me?
 

KWingJitsu

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My only position is that white privilege exists in the US, although I acknowledge BeardOfKnowledge @ConorMcGregorsBeard's valid point that it is difficult/impossible to quantify. Your posts have repeatedly supported this, although you now seem to be disagreeing with your previous statements. In any case, the simple litmus test is: would you rather be black or white in the US?
Wow. Check out how well your point is illustrated in this video:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7SCgNjPMq4
 
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I keep forgetting, but its very clear you're not American nor live in America, nor are aware of the reasons 'black communities" in America are often time poorer than others; and why that leads to higher crime rates. I'm sure you think its some other reason than the historical facts though.
Your foreign privilege disables you from comprehending it.
Everything is a historical fact. Everything is data. Not all data are historical facts.
I will write this again so even you can comprehend it: the data has been in for a while, the main pathway to higher crime rates in society is broken families, i.e. non nuclear. You can imagine it's anything else, that's your prerogative but sorry sister, "because slavery" isn't the answer.This isn't a denial that racism exists (everyone is racist to one extent because we're highly tribalistic- it is literally who we are) but some white person not being as personable with you as they were to the last person they served isn't your excuse to go shoot up a 7-11.
I hope that clears things up for you.
I grew up in Canada, I live there a few months of every year. I've seen this "white privilege" bullshit creep into Canadian society too. It's almost always from people who were born there and have never made a life outside its' borders.
Stop blaming white people for your own feelings about yourself and life, it's immature.
 

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Is that question directed at me?
It wasn't, it was part of a discussion with @blank but this is a public board and you're free to answer if you wish.
Everything is a historical fact. Everything is data. Not all data are historical facts.
I will write this again so even you can comprehend it: the data has been in for a while, the main pathway to higher crime rates in society is broken families, i.e. non nuclear. You can imagine it's anything else, that's your prerogative but sorry sister, "because slavery" isn't the answer.This isn't a denial that racism exists (everyone is racist to one extent because we're highly tribalistic- it is literally who we are) but some white person not being as personable with you as they were to the last person they served isn't your excuse to go shoot up a 7-11.
I hope that clears things up for you.
I grew up in Canada, I live there a few months of every year. I've seen this "white privilege" bullshit creep into Canadian society too. It's almost always from people who were born there and have never made a life outside its' borders.
Stop blaming white people for your own feelings about yourself and life, it's immature.
I really think you're missing the idea of what white privilege means. It isn't about blaming white people, although some people do that as well. It is acknowledging that society treats you differently depending on your race, like someone not being as personable with you simply because of your race. Most of your posts confirm white privilege. You say that everyone is racist and prefers to stick to their own race, that white people have a better chance of living in nicer communities etc. That's confirmation of white privilege.
 

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Everything is a historical fact. Everything is data. Not all data are historical facts.
I will write this again so even you can comprehend it: the data has been in for a while, the main pathway to higher crime rates in society is broken families, i.e. non nuclear. You can imagine it's anything else, that's your prerogative but sorry sister, "because slavery" isn't the answer.This isn't a denial that racism exists (everyone is racist to one extent because we're highly tribalistic- it is literally who we are) but some white person not being as personable with you as they were to the last person they served isn't your excuse to go shoot up a 7-11.
I hope that clears things up for you.
I grew up in Canada, I live there a few months of every year. I've seen this "white privilege" bullshit creep into Canadian society too. It's almost always from people who were born there and have never made a life outside its' borders.
Stop blaming white people for your own feelings about yourself and life, it's immature.
LOL. You are clearly mentally ill.
Symptoms; making up imaginary conversations.
So easily triggered.
 

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It wasn't, it was part of a discussion with @blank but this is a public board and you're free to answer if you wish.

I really think you're missing the idea of what white privilege means. It isn't about blaming white people, although some people do that as well. It is acknowledging that society treats you differently depending on your race, like someone not being as personable with you simply because of your race. Most of your posts confirm white privilege. You say that everyone is racist and prefers to stick to their own race, that white people have a better chance of living in nicer communities etc. That's confirmation of white privilege.
How's that white privilege working out in South Africa?
 

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It wasn't, it was part of a discussion with @blank but this is a public board and you're free to answer if you wish.

I really think you're missing the idea of what white privilege means. It isn't about blaming white people, although some people do that as well. It is acknowledging that society treats you differently depending on your race, like someone not being as personable with you simply because of your race. Most of your posts confirm white privilege. You say that everyone is racist and prefers to stick to their own race, that white people have a better chance of living in nicer communities etc. That's confirmation of white privilege.
Bingo. It appears you are wasting your time explaining something so simple to him though.
He's either unwilling or incapable of understanding it without lashing out.
Makes one wonder why he seems to be taking it so personally.
 

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Bingo. It appears you are wasting your time explaining something so simple to him though.
He's either unwilling or incapable of understanding it without lashing out.
Makes one wonder why he seems to be taking it so personally.
Could be because western Europeans will be extinct within a few generations.