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SensoriaUtopia

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No one is saying we don't need police reform but you are ignoring the MASSIVE problem that criminals are being emboldened to roit and loot which ironically will mostly harm the poor and minorities

Maybe you overlook this because you've been conditioned to reflexively defend shit behaviour because the media stokes hatred due to muh racism

Your mindset is just as toxic as the people you condemn in your post maybe even more so

Yes police reform is a must and so is a populus that respects others private property and safety

Wrong, I never said I support riots, show me one post where I do
 

SensoriaUtopia

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i think the heavy-handed and militaristic approach of the police towards peaceful protests also feed the rioting and violence.
How likely do you think it is that police, Feds, antiFa/ProudBoys, would use agent provocateurs to incite riots?

or do you think a large percentage of the people marching for police reform are actually criminals?


They always leave this stuff out

You can clearly see police violating rights left and right, pushing down old people, attacking reporters, just like civilians rioting is not cool,neither is this


fuck that fox news scum Dan Bongino and his warrior training, that shitface
 

nuraknu

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More white ppl are killed by cops than blacks.
Would you be ok w a white lives matter group?
Maybe one that uses violence a lot?
I am not ok with violence.

I'm honestly not sure how I personally feel about the idea of wlm. I have mixed thoughts. The reason is not the words themselves but the motivations of many people who say them. Regardless of the numbers, it's usually not because they actually feel targeted because of race, but because they feel threatened by the BLM movement, or are actually white supremacists. I think there are legitimate reasons to feel threatened, but I am not sure that's the right way to deal with those.

My instinct is to reject wlm, but it's mainly because I wouldn't want to be associated with a lot of the people that would be attracted to it, and I'm not sure it would be formed for the right reasons. I also think, even if there were a legitimate wlm issue, that there wouldn't be a way for that kind of group communicate what it's about effectively. We already see this with blm, as an example, since we see how different people perceive it and how much discord there is over it. Wlm would be worse of course, because in this country we have so much history of white supremacy being accepted in our power structures -- there just hasn't been enough time gone by since many issues were addressed. A few more generations would have to turn over, I think.

Also, to respond to someone speaking about blm with wlm, is to show that you don't want to listen to them about the issues they're trying to address anymore, and you're trying to change the subject. It's invalidating the import of what they're talking about. The same goes with other kinds of things like that, and yes if you were seriously, independently discussing another issue and someone came in and said, don't talk about that, talk about me and my issues instead, I think you might feel similarly.

Also, I think I already posted about my feelings about the ideas of race in general -- race medically may not be a social/political construct, but the way race is used in politics 100% is. There is nothing medical about the way politicians break people into groups, and the way the groups have changed over the years as different ethnicities have been moved from one group to another, or broken out or merged. So I think, like people are basically complaining about being left out with the blm movement, there are a lot of people that would feel that way with wlm. And the peoples who are in this transitory state as politicians move them in and out of groups don't really identify as either, and I don't think it would make things better for people to start to want to identify themselves that way.

So after all that, my answer is still, I have mixed feelings about it, and like I said before, I can see both sides of the issue.
 
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I don't have any problem with BLM as a statement, or groups (black or otherwise) bringing attention to discrimination they face. I do have issue with a black guy writing an op ed in the local paper in which he declares that no one who isn't black could possibly understand what black people face, as if being Jewish has been a walk in the park, and it's that attitude that I've watched become frighteningly prevalent over the past week and a bit.

View: https://youtu.be/WD8mWq0Hdcw
 

tang

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They always leave this stuff out

You can clearly see police violating rights left and right, pushing down old people, attacking reporters, just like civilians rioting is not cool,neither is this


fuck that fox news scum Dan Bongino and his warrior training, that shitface
the police were letting people protest peacefully until shit hit the fan, burning, rioting, looting...
 

SensoriaUtopia

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the police were letting people protest peacefully until shit hit the fan, burning, rioting, looting...

Goes both ways, youi cannot make a blanket statement like that

Some situations that is true

other literally other way where cops take the force level too high too soon
 

tang

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Goes both ways, youi cannot make a blanket statement like that

Some situations that is true

other literally other way where cops take the force level too high too soon
not a blanket statement, it's true. Cops weren't using riot control tactics until burning and the looting started,.

It's like gloves are off at that point. why would they hold back?? plus you have no idea how chaotic it is in situations like that. looters are the problem and everyone just posts these short clips of social media that fits their own narrative

if you want to help, stop promoting any short clips from social media that doesn't tell the whole story, it doesn't hlep, just escalates even more

there are plenty of videos where they only show the cops doing the beating, leaving out what happened before.
 

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Okay, so he talks about Italians, right?

During WW2, Italians, like the Japanese, were rounded up, had their shit taken from them and were stuffed into internment camps because they couldn't be trusted with their cultural ideas. Now, not in the same number the Japanese were but most people don't even realize it was a thing that happened. Do you know why most first or second generation kids from Italian background don't speak Italian? It's because their parents and grand parents lived such dog shit lives that they wanted to spare their kids the constant abuse and harassment so they stripped them of a lot of their public facing heritage. He talks about pasta, as if it's a dish they brought with them when they came over and kept their culture. Do me a favor, go to Italy and find spaghetti and meatballs, or pizza that resembles what people are used to in North America. He's also ignoring that when the Italians came here it was so the government could exploit their labor. It's only the last 20 years that Italians have been considered "white" and they're still teated like second class citizens by many WASPs. But when a group sneaks out from under a pattern of oppresion they're lucky enough to have their heritage, the new one they forged from the scrap heap, stripped a second time. "You're white now, but not really. Oh, and don't act up or you're out of the club." and this same story applies to a lot of different ethnic groups.

There's an expresssion about walking a mile in another man's moccassins. That applies to everyone, I wouldn't pretend to know what it's like to be black, I'm not that ignorant, but do blacks know what it's like to be Jewish, or an Indian on a reserve? Because that's not exactly a picnic.
 

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not a blanket statement, it's true. Cops weren't using riot control tactics until burning and the looting started,.

It's like gloves are off at that point. why would they hold back?? plus you have no idea how chaotic it is in situations like that. looters are the problem and everyone just posts these short clips of social media that fits their own narrative

if you want to help, stop promoting any short clips from social media that doesn't tell the whole story, it doesn't hlep, just escalates even more

there are plenty of videos where they only show the cops doing the beating, leaving out what happened before.

Complete mistruth by you


There have been casees of rioters causing shit and there are also a lot of cases of cops with no sitauational awareness that go from 1 to 60

You are blind if you dont see that, truly you are
 

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Complete mistruth by you


There have been casees of rioters causing shit and there are also a lot of cases of cops with no sitauational awareness that go from 1 to 60

You are blind if you dont see that, truly you are
lol because you have better source than I?

were you there on the ground? you're just going by whatever you see on your social media feed... I guess I'm blind
 

SensoriaUtopia

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lol because you have better source than I?

were you there on the ground? you're just going by whatever you see on your social media feed... I guess I'm blind

You are, there are examples all over the place of cops using excessive force on their own volition,

You are blind as fuck if you think it is only 1 side and you are part of the problem and what is holding back America
 

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You are, there are examples all over the place of cops using excessive force on their own volition,

You are blind as fuck if you think it is only 1 side and you are part of the problem and what is holding back America
why you being all hostile you stupid fuck!

when did I say it was 1 side? I said cops were peaceful until some shitheads started to loot, then things went out the window

hold America back? right... these protests are not holding anything back, blocking traffic, burning and looting shit, destroying other people's lifetime worth of work in a heartbeat is not holding anything back but me.. who have a different opinion than you is the one holding America back~ fuck you turd
 

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SensoriaUtopia

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why you being all hostile you stupid fuck!

when did I say it was 1 side? I said cops were peaceful until some shitheads started to loot, then things went out the window

hold America back? right... these protests are not holding anything back, blocking traffic, burning and looting shit, destroying other people's lifetime worth of work in a heartbeat is not holding anything back but me.. who have a different opinion than you is the one holding America back~ fuck you turd

You are blind and directly contributing to the problem with your lies.

Any person that points the fingers only at rioters and looters is a hack that would not fairness if it hit them in the face, nicely.


There are probably even more examples of cops going to excessive force to quickly than there are of rioters.

Any person with a brain gets this, they get it is both sides. People like you directly are part of the problem in this country.
 

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You are blind and directly contributing to the problem with your lies.

Any person that points the fingers only at rioters and looters is a hack that would not fairness if it hit them in the face, nicely.


There are probably even more examples of cops going to excessive force to quickly than there are of rioters.

Any person with a brain gets this, they get it is both sides. People like you directly are part of the problem in this country.
lol probably even more examples? because there's no rioters who's going to tape their own rioting, and everyone wants to push their agenda on social media

you're weird. I've been saying cops were peaceful until the looters, then they got violent and somehow you perceived that as it's all rioters and looters fault

yea, people like me are the problem. people like me who stay home and take care of my family are the problem of this country.

i know you're doing so much to help, did you even make your screen black? are you going to move to a black hood to diversify the neighborhoods?
 

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lol probably even more examples? because there's no rioters who's going to tape their own rioting, and everyone wants to push their agenda on social media

you're weird. I've been saying cops were peaceful until the looters, then they got violent and somehow you perceived that as it's all rioters and looters fault

yea, people like me are the problem. people like me who stay home and take care of my family are the problem of this country.

i know you're doing so much to help, did you even make your screen black? are you going to move to a black hood to diversify the neighborhoods?

You are a flat out liar


there are looters who are egging on cops

And there are also many instances where cops attacked peaceful protestors, only a blind person like you sees 1 side

bullshit on cops where peaecful until, you are just full ofshit and you directly are part of the problem in this country, 100%
 

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People like tang @Vagabond are blind and dirty, they wont admit this
Fren, it's clear they don't want anyone to protest anywhere. Double that if anyone/thing 'black'/blm/anti-police brutality is involved.
Hypocritically though, I'll bet they're only okay with protests to "reopen" the country due to the lockdown.




Namaste
 

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People like tang @Vagabond are blind and dirty, they wont admit this
you're a fuckin retard, i said the cops were peaceful until some shithead started looting and destroying shit. if you disagree that's fine fuckin' retard. I don't give a rat's ass about these shithead cops. I hope they all get what they deserve but I'm not going to change my stance because of a video on social media. Do you know exact timeline of the video? was it before or after the looting you dumbfuck.
 

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you're a fuckin retard, i said the cops were peaceful until some shithead started looting and destroying shit. if you disagree that's fine fuckin' retard. I don't give a rat's ass about these shithead cops. I hope they all get what they deserve but I'm not going to change my stance because of a video on social media. Do you know exact timeline of the video? was it before or after the looting you dumbfuck.

You are blatantly lying, cops have attacked peaceful protestors and even reporters


Any person with a brain knows this

Actually right now there is a lawsuit by the ACLU involving Trump and Barr just from the White House PR stunt a few days ago


You are just a reality denier and we see you
 

SensoriaUtopia

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Fren, it's clear they don't want anyone to protest anywhere. Double that if anyone/thing 'black'/blm/anti-police brutality is involved.
Hypocritically though, I'll bet they're only okay with protests to "reopen" the country due to the lockdown.




Namaste

Spot On
 

tang

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Fren, it's clear they don't want anyone to protest anywhere. Double that if anyone/thing 'black'/blm/anti-police brutality is involved.
Hypocritically though, I'll bet they're only okay with protests to "reopen" the country due to the lockdown.




Namaste
right~ man of virtue who leaves his every comment with "namaste" putting words into my mouth.

i said get the numbers straight, have you even looked it up? I have, and after I did... I said it's nothing worth a protest

nah~iMma StAy ignOrant