Conor BusGate "Victims" are LOSING THEIR MINDS

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La Paix

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T-City Parks/Rec Director said:
And Chiesa is saying that with Fergie out, he was ranked higher than Ragin' Al and would have been available to fight on-weight on the card. Conor's antics robbed him of a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to jump rank and get a shot at the belt.
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This is purely speculation on his behalf. He lost his last fight and with Dana behind the wheel nobody is guaranteed anything especially based off rankings. To me this reads like Mike finally has some sort of angel to come after Conor so now he's speaking up.
 
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This is purely speculation on his behalf. He lost his last fight and with Dana behind the wheel nobody is guaranteed anything especially based off rankings. To me this reads like Mike finally has some sort of angel to come after Conor so now he's speaking up.
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Unless Conor's legal team can convince a jury that "rankings don't mean anything", Chiesa can easily make a case that he would have been in consideration - and likely that he would have been chosen. That's all he really needs to do to show that Conor deprived him of expected income.

He won't be able to argue lost income if he won the fight, but he can argue for lost income of PPV/Headliner/Title Fight in his current contract.

It's a civil suit, so Chiesa just has to convince the jury that it's more likely than not that he would have gotten the nod. Considering that the commission wouldn't let other fighters (Paul Felder) take the shot due to their low rankings, it seems like an easy point to win with a jury.
 
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Conors Fans are losing their minds, have lost touch with reality
 
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Splinty said:
Who are you to judge what causes another stress and trauma?

Sometimes words aren't enough for actions. Time usually needed and it's hardly been very much of that.

Turns out actions have consequences on yourself and others.
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Sometimes we just gotta call a spade a spade and that's all there is to it.
 
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Splinty said:
It might be. But then there's just as much credibility that Rose seeing a mob of people smashing shit into her bus could give her nitemares and anxiety beyond the event.
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So you are saying Rose's ptsd claim is just as likely to be as legitimate as Conor's apology was sincere? And seeing as you don't believe his apology was sincere...
 
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So you are saying Rose's ptsd claim is just as likely to be as legitimate as Conor's apology was sincere?
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Yes

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And seeing as you don't believe his apology was sincere...
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I didn't say that. You are.

I said that Rose isn't obligated to accept an apology on Conor's timeline. Refusing an apology proves nothing about the validity of the harm Conor did to Rose.

The person fucking up doesn't dictate the schedule or appropriate ways the victim needs to heal.
 
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Splinty said:
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I didn't say that. You are.

I said that Rose isn't obligated to accept an apology on Conor's timeline. Refusing an apology proves nothing about the validity of the harm Conor did to Rose.

The person fucking up doesn't dictate the schedule or appropriate ways the victim needs to heal.
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Okay, everything you've written makes sense except that word heal.
No sir, not on your life. There is no emotional or psychological healing required from her involvement in that incident.
Insistence to the contrary makes a mockery of what real psycholgical stress and trauma are.
Creating some cockamamie story about ptsd is her trying to use the suffering others have had to endure to lend legitimacy to her attempted theft of another person's hard-earned money.
 
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Okay, everything you've written makes sense except that word heal.
No sir, not on your life. There is no emotional or psychological healing required from her involvement in that incident.
Insistence to the contrary makes a mockery of what real psycholgical stress and trauma are.
Creating some cockamamie story about ptsd is her trying to use the suffering others have had to endure to lend legitimacy to her attempted theft of another person's hard-earned money.
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google the psychology of projection, then re-read your post.

you're assigning motives to another person based on how you think you would act in the same situation.
but you're only you. There is a dispute of fact, that's what courts are for...making findings of fact in disputes.

When in the history of ever has Rose attempted to mis-represent herself for financial gain?
Does this seem like someone who would mis-represent herself for financial gain?


 
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blank said:
No sir, not on your life. There is no emotional or psychological healing required from her involvement in that incident.
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You never know these days. Maybe she needs an emotional support animal next time when stepping in that cage. A Boa or something.
 
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Yossarian said:
You never know these days. Maybe she needs an emotional support animal next time when stepping in that cage. A Boa or something.
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I am interested in your new event: pitting a human and animal against another team. Capital idea!!!
 
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Yossarian said:
Trolls they call them.
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We all have our moments, no harm, no foul.
I have no idea why people in the west are such emotional flowers these days. It's like, if you give em a tree to climb then they go like nobody's business; give em a room to sit in and they shit all over the place and then need to hug their retarded dog.
 
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No sir, not on your life. There is no emotional or psychological healing required from her involvement in that incident.
Insistence to the contrary makes a mockery of what real psycholgical stress and trauma are.
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What's the criteria for ptsd?

Oh here I'll tell you:

Criterion A (one required): The person was exposed to: death, threatened death, actual or threatened serious injury, or actual or threatened sexual violence, in the following way(s):

Direct exposure
Witnessing the trauma
Learning that a relative or close friend was exposed to a trauma
Indirect exposure to aversive details of the trauma, usually in the course of professional duties (e.g., first responders, medics)
Criterion B (one required): The traumatic event is persistently re-experienced, in the following way(s):

Unwanted upsetting memories
Nightmares
Flashbacks
Emotional distress after exposure to traumatic reminders
Physical reactivity after exposure to traumatic reminders
Criterion C (one required): Avoidance of trauma-related stimuli after the trauma, in the following way(s):

Trauma-related thoughts or feelings
Trauma-related reminders
Criterion D (two required): Negative thoughts or feelings that began or worsened after the trauma, in the following way(s):

Inability to recall key features of the trauma
Overly negative thoughts and assumptions about oneself or the world
Exaggerated blame of self or others for causing the trauma
Negative affect
Decreased interest in activities
Feeling isolated
Difficulty experiencing positive affect
Criterion E (two required): Trauma-related arousal and reactivity that began or worsened after the trauma, in the following way(s):

Irritability or aggression
Risky or destructive behavior
Hypervigilance
Heightened startle reaction
Difficulty concentrating
Difficulty sleeping
Criterion F (required): Symptoms last for more than 1 month.

Criterion G (required): Symptoms create distress or functional impairment (e.g., social, occupational).

Criterion H (required): Symptoms are not due to medication, substance use, or other illness.



What's so crazy to think that Rose thought she was in real danger of serious injury and since has anxiety and/or nitemares about said event?

How are people handwaving what happened as impossible to cause distress?
 
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Splinty said:
What's the criteria for ptsd?

Oh here I'll tell you:

Criterion A (one required): The person was exposed to: death, threatened death, actual or threatened serious injury, or actual or threatened sexual violence, in the following way(s):

Direct exposure
Witnessing the trauma
Learning that a relative or close friend was exposed to a trauma
Indirect exposure to aversive details of the trauma, usually in the course of professional duties (e.g., first responders, medics)
Criterion B (one required): The traumatic event is persistently re-experienced, in the following way(s):

Unwanted upsetting memories
Nightmares
Flashbacks
Emotional distress after exposure to traumatic reminders
Physical reactivity after exposure to traumatic reminders
Criterion C (one required): Avoidance of trauma-related stimuli after the trauma, in the following way(s):

Trauma-related thoughts or feelings
Trauma-related reminders
Criterion D (two required): Negative thoughts or feelings that began or worsened after the trauma, in the following way(s):

Inability to recall key features of the trauma
Overly negative thoughts and assumptions about oneself or the world
Exaggerated blame of self or others for causing the trauma
Negative affect
Decreased interest in activities
Feeling isolated
Difficulty experiencing positive affect
Criterion E (two required): Trauma-related arousal and reactivity that began or worsened after the trauma, in the following way(s):

Irritability or aggression
Risky or destructive behavior
Hypervigilance
Heightened startle reaction
Difficulty concentrating
Difficulty sleeping
Criterion F (required): Symptoms last for more than 1 month.

Criterion G (required): Symptoms create distress or functional impairment (e.g., social, occupational).

Criterion H (required): Symptoms are not due to medication, substance use, or other illness.



What's so crazy to think that Rose thought she was in real danger of serious injury and since has anxiety and/or nitemares about said event?

How are people handwaving what happened as impossible to cause distress?
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What a joke, you can post some bullshit list endorsed by a bunch of quacks but that's all it is. They have to pretend all those things are real sources of trauma to keep business rolling in.
Here's the real list:
  1. Someone very close to you died or was/has been injured.
  2. You witnessed extreme suffering, brutality or death up close.
  3. You killed others or had to be brutal to them for a sustained period of time.
  4. Suffering injury or disability.
Your dog died? Get over it, that's how it is.
You thought you were going to be hurt but in the end nothing happened? Yeah, negative on that one too; go actually get injured and come back to the victim's table.
 
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